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Old 08-02-2014, 08:02 PM   #1
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How do I Fix these Studs & Floor Plates???


Hello All,

In need of some help to begin finishing my Man Cave!!!

After ripping out all of the wood panels I discovered that the basement apparently had water damage and the basement was not water proof. I have since had the basement professionally waterproofed. The problem i have now is that some of the studs had to be cut in half and some of floor plates removed. As a result I can't move forward w/ drywall yet.

I have attached a picture of the wall I'm trying to repair. FYI...that is concrete at the bottom. Any ideas on how I can replace the floor and wall studs would be GREAT!!! Then I can put my drywall up and be ready for the NFL season!!!!

Please help...a regular family guy on a limited budget in need!
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If that was mine I'd be removing all those cut off 2 X 4's and rebuild the whole wall with 2 X 4's out away from foundation and even with that raised area in the floor, or better yet in front of it, and use pressure treated bottom plate.
Then run all new wiring.


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Here is a close up picture of the floor and the studs that were cut.
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Not sure they are 2x2 but I can check. I had a contractor come in and he said the existing frame was actually pretty good. I would have had him do it, but he was charging too much so I figured I good do it myself. Is replacement really necessary?

Do you know any resources to show me/ describe step by step how to lay the bottom plate and then bracket the studs?
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There's just no good way to patch this no matter how good that wood looks.
It would take you more time trying to patch it and the wall would be weaker.
Bottom plate gets Tap Coned to the concrete, then just mark it so the new studs sit at 16" on center. Studs just get toe nailed in place. #8 ACQ approved nails, 2, on one side and one in the middle on the other.
Check them with a level.
You want to hand pick every stud and plate. They need to be stud grade and as close as possible to being straight, no twist and minimum knots.
See that board in the inside corner, that what's called a nailer, It's for attaching the sheetrock to in the corners.
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Got it....hmmmm maybe I'll look into breaking down the wall and rebuilding it. Thanks for the shared wisdom.

Guess I'll grab my calculator and figure out how much to rebuild the frames. If you think of anything else, let me know.
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It might be easier to just splice in the missing stud pieces, then tie the wall together with 1/4" plywood for strength - rather than all new (one piece) wall studs.
But hey - framing is always fun - and a good learning experience if you've never done it before. Just google basic wall framing and I'm sure you'll find tons of photos/instructions.
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Poor idea, 1/4 plywood has 0 strength.
It's going to require at least 6 times the number of cuts.
And that's not even including the number of cuts to get the hanging studs cut square.
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He's looking for a way to avoid tearing out the studs - it would work. Jump up to 7/16" plywood or something a little stiffer if needed.
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Fix it right or have a hack job your choice.
7/16 plywood, where would you even find that?
1, Install new pressure treated bottom plate, New studs one cut.
2, Patching it in, having to cut a bottom plate, one cut to get the cut off studs square, one cut the stud to make a cripple, another to sister a 4' patch, then have to cut up plywood to sheath the wall.
The mold spores would love that.
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Option 1 : Rip out the studs and put in new ones

In other words - this thread has no reason to exist.

I was giving another option since I assumed that isn't what the OP wanted to do. I'm not saying it is the best/easiest way.

Familyguy - Just rip out the existing and start from scratch. It really is the smartest option.
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This wall is not load bearing. It is only to finish the space.
I would simply put down a new plate. Cut pieces to fill the missing studs. Then cut a second piece longer than the piece and sister it along side. Drywall and be done.
If you didn't have all the electrical in there then I would consider replacing them.
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Agree with joed. This wall holds nothing up except the drywall affixed to it. I wouldn't even bother to cut short filler studs. Just put down the new plate and a series of 18" to 24" studs adjacent to the existing studs. Sister them to the existing studs with 3" screws or nails.
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Rip it out and do it right the first time. You try to patch that then panel it or Sheetrock it and it'll turn out so wavy. Reframe properly. There are a ton of resources on how to frame walls in a basement. I would suggest a powder actuated nailer for the bottom plates
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Man cave, not mansion. Go with joked's&w suggestion ( which is what mine was going to be but he beat me to it!!). Ron

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