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cititravel 11-09-2011 01:47 PM

HELP: Sagging attic floor
 
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Hi, I need your advice on our attic floor sagging issue. Please take a look at the photos attached. They are even detached from frames or joists and we do not know what to do... Any of you know how to correct this issue? Thanks in advance.

12penny 11-09-2011 02:00 PM

Well...unless I'm missing something, that isnt an attic floor. Its the ceiling of the floor below.

My advise would be to not walk on it.

Ron6519 11-09-2011 02:09 PM

Lift the sheetrock from below and support it. The nails should all pop out. Remove the nails.
Make sure the sheetrock is tight to the truss bottom and screw the sheetrock to the trusses every 6-8 ". Then slowly remove the support under the ceiling. Compound all the holes and paint the ceiling.

oldhouseguy 11-09-2011 02:14 PM

If it is being treated as an "attic floor", that would explain the sagging.

Lucky someone didn't come crashing through if that is the case.

I had a cable installer walk on the "attic floor" in an apartment I had when I was younger. Did the same thing, only worse.

DexterII 11-09-2011 02:30 PM

Citi, don't dilly dally around up there, or you might end up with sheets of drywall layng on the floor below, but I would do a quick visual in the attic first, just to make sure that no wires, etc. have relaxed and found their way between the trusses and drywall.

oh'mike 11-09-2011 06:17 PM

Very convenient that there is no insulation.

Jack that drywall up ---now---skip dinner and head to the store for supplies.

cititravel 11-11-2011 09:44 AM

I appreciate everyone for replying!

Yes, it is the ceiling of the floor below and we do not walk on it. However, contractors kept walking on them, even though we advised them not to. I guess we should install more pathway, so that no one wants to walk on it any more. As Ron advised, we also scheduled the repair.

Again, thank you, everyone!

oh'mike 11-11-2011 10:25 AM

Thank you for the response---That happens occasionally-- Not enough nails--not long enough

At least you caught it before it fell----Mike---

bob22 11-11-2011 04:15 PM

where do you live where there is NO insulation in an attic space?
You need some.

woodworkbykirk 11-11-2011 05:30 PM

during the framing stages its ok to be up walking on the bottom chords of trusses but after drywall is up your just asking for problems.... nothing i hate more than hacker substrades that do stupid things that can compromise framing and interior finish. what these guys should have done is try to run a 2x10 plank up there and set it across the bottom chord so their weight will be distributed across several trusses which will greatly reduce teh chance of screw pops or worse the drywall collapsing

Tizzer 11-12-2011 04:21 PM

My eye sight isn't the best, but when I zoomed in on those pictures - those fasteners looked like tacks. Their shanks look bare.

Thadius856 11-13-2011 02:44 AM

They're perfectly spaced in sets of two, so they look like staples to me. o.O

bob22 11-13-2011 08:50 AM

Whatever they are, some screws would help a bunch.

loneframer 11-13-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tizzer (Post 769561)
My eye sight isn't the best, but when I zoomed in on those pictures - those fasteners looked like tacks. Their shanks look bare.

They're probably cement coated drywall nails, which are not the problem. The problem is, there appears to be no adhesive used.

I really prefer nailing in some scenarios, primarily because often times screws don't draw the sheet up tight to the joist, or just as bad, compromise the paper, allowing the weight to pull the screw head through.

The double nailing/screwing is industry standard on a ceiling around here. It assures that the sheet is pulled up snugly and will support the weight of the drywall.

For the nails to pull out like that, there is something more going on than weight being applied to the drywall. They should have pulled through the rock before withdrawing from the wood.:huh:

woodworkbykirk 11-13-2011 07:28 PM

yup, double nailing is a method that is used but not often seen. most board hangers that work on homes with wood framing will have teams of 3 workers. 2 guys cutting and tacking sheets then a 3rd who simply follows behind and screws off all the sheets. the guys tacking the sheets will do it with drywall nails. ive done it and its easier than dragging a screw gun when you just putting 6 or 8 fasteners in until it gets screwed off


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