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Old 10-27-2010, 10:18 PM   #1
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Hi- I was hoping someone could help with some information on how we would go about repairing a rotted sill plate on the bottom level of a 3-story walk out lower level home. My husband has already fixed the source of the leaking that caused the rot in the first place. I have included some pictures of what we have going on. In Area 1 Both of the boards have completely rotted through, and on Area 2 there is about five feet of soft rotted wood. Any help would be appreciated.


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Hire a pro to do it. This is not a DIY project.

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This is probably worse than it looks.

My first questions would be, how did your husband fix the leaks and does that deck wrap around the corner to area 2?

Looking at the damage you have on the inside it’s undoubtedly worse on the other side to include the rim joist and sheathing. The damage to that header is probably much worse if your looking at it from the other side.

DIY? Don’t know, it depends on your skill level but if you have to ask how to do it I’d say probably not.

EDIT: Pull away the insulation in those areas to expose the sheathing.
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You are dealing with the structure of the home. There are at least 3 trades that I can see from the picture that needs to get involved. You will need to pull permits and have the work inspected. This is not the type of project that you go online and read about to do it yourself. I don't know of any real professional that would give you advice to tackle this on your own.

Sorry, but you really need to consult a professional and have them assess the damage. Cripple walls, hydraulic jacks, mold remediation, are just a few things that should scare off a DIY'er. All of that drywall needs to come out, cabinets, counter top, base cabinets, the siding may need to come off to replace any bad sheets of sheathing. A mold remediation company needs to come in and clean up the mold.

Mold alone would tell you that you need to hire a professional. Mold is one of the few words that can kill the sale of the home and require tens of thousands of dollars to regain a solid reputation on the market.
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To reiterate what others are saying ... Hire a pro. You are dealing with structural support for the two stories above not to mention mold issues. An expert needs to see this first hand and not via photos online.
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Hire a pro to do it. This is not a DIY project.
How do you know?
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How do you know?
Appropriat support for structure. Jacposts on inside of rotren beam. A length of 11.5 lb 8 inch ibeam steel to carry the load if running perpendicular to joists. Saw an chisel out rotted piece. Dont jack house all at once a few cranks a day for a week until load is relieved. Might crack walls a rack windows. Be patient. Use pt wood.
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How do you know?
Are serious? If I have to explain it to you, then you have no business being in this business.

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Appropriat support for structure. Jacposts on inside of rotren beam. A length of 11.5 lb 8 inch ibeam steel to carry the load if running perpendicular to joists. Saw an chisel out rotted piece. Dont jack house all at once a few cranks a day for a week until load is relieved. Might crack walls a rack windows. Be patient. Use pt wood.
Appropriat = Appropriate

Jacposts = Jack posts

rotren = rotten

11.5 lb as a length? that is a measure of weight did you mean 11.5 foot 8 inch beam?

saw an chisel = saw and chisel

might crack wall a rack windows? what does that mean.

You are telling homeowners to jack there house. They have never seen it done, they have never had anyone show them how to do it, and they have never done it themselves.

Permits need to be obtained and the work needs to be inspected. Please don't listen to any old yahoo on here on how to fix something this major.

Find a professional in your area and have them assess the repairs.
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I'm with TNTRob on this ... I am in "the business" and I wouldn't touch this myself. I would bring in an expert who not only specializes in structural repairs but also has the appropriate insurance and knowledge of building codes.
I see so much "how can I do this cheaply" these days rather than how can I do this right. If you don't have the money to do it correctly then you can't afford to do it as far as I am concerned. Is your house and your family worth the risk of not bothering with a pro??

I know this is a DIY forum, but there are some things that are not for the non-pro!
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I jacked up several spots in my last house to repair the support structure
At the time it was only a single story
3 story is a lot of weight

Pics are gone
So no idea how bad this problem is
A 5' length is not that hard to replace
All depends upon the structure, floor joists etc
I cut out a 10' area of rim joist on my house to build my new bay window & floor support
No problem at all
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I jacked up several spots in my last house to repair the support structure
At the time it was only a single story
3 story is a lot of weight

Pics are gone
So no idea how bad this problem is
A 5' length is not that hard to replace
All depends upon the structure, floor joists etc
I cut out a 10' area of rim joist on my house to build my new bay window & floor support
No problem at all
Not a pro and not for hire...hmmm not someone I would take advice from. They admit to not knowing how to do it and they won't get paid to do it. Stick to getting a real professional (someone who knows what they are talking about, seen a thousand times and actually gets paid for their advice) to tell you how easy it is.
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I've had no problem with this house or my last house doing my own work
That includes building a 3 story addition
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Not misleading at all
I pulled my own permits & built a 3 story addition
I am allowed to do my own electric, no AC
And yes given the proper precautions a HO can replace 5' of sill plate
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Take a few days off to correct your attitude
I insist

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