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Old 02-24-2012, 04:42 PM   #16
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Buy Kiln Dried (KD) lumber, often not available at big box.

All of their lumber is HT KD ..heat treated kiln dried.

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Store it off the ground with blocks, chocks or sleepers depending on where you grew up. Bonus points if you put down Visqueen first. Then cover it with Visqueen. Store it out of direct sunlight.

It warps because it has high moisture content.

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I dont know who wrote that article ..but i don’t think he ever even touched a 2x4 ...
Stand it up and its gonna straighten out...when you lay it flat one side of the board gets all of the heat and the other side gets all of the moisture content.
why do you think they stand up 1x in the big box stores ?
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:50 PM   #18
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You bought that lumber from a wet load---Improperly stored or wrapped during shipment--

Take it back--find a dry load in a different store.
Mike it is acceptable for dimensional lumber to be stored outdoors....it should be tarped do
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I dont know who wrote that article ..but i don’t think he ever even touched a 2x4 ...
Stand it up and its gonna straighten out...when you lay it flat one side of the board gets all of the heat and the other side gets all of the moisture content.
why do you think they stand up 1x in the big box stores ?

1x thats stood up is more prone to warping than if its laid down and has sleepers between it to allow for air flow. i dont know how many times ive gone to buy pine from a big box that stores it standing up only to turn back around and drive the extra 30 minutes to go to the local pine mill that keeps it lying flat.. the flat stuff stays flatter as it has the weight of other boards lying on it which reduces warpage.. when its stood up it wants to bow and sag
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I prefer to order all framing lumber from Lumber Yards, rather than Big Box Stores.

For the small jobs i get lumber from HD....much better quality than lumber yards...local Lumber yards here store their stuff outdoors.
For bigger jobs we get it from lee or 84 they know how to stage it...2x4 on the top joists and headers on the bottom….plywood -separate bunks etc
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1x thats stood up is more prone to warping than if its laid down and has sleepers between it to allow for air flow. i dont know how many times ive gone to buy pine from a big box that stores it standing up only to turn back around and drive the extra 30 minutes to go to the local pine mill that keeps it lying flat.. the flat stuff stays flatter as it has the weight of other boards lying on it which reduces warpage.. when its stood up it wants to bow and sag

you are 100% right i store my left over oak ,poplar ,maple ..1x using sleepers ...sometimes

Cheap stuff i stand up ...who got time to flat stack them ..if they bow or sag its not a big deal you use them for the plates
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Stand it up and its gonna straighten out...when you lay it flat one side of the board gets all of the heat and the other side gets all of the moisture content.
why do you think they stand up 1x in the big box stores ?
I believe the big box stores stand their 1x stock upright as a space saving consideration. Lumber that is left flat on the ground or in direct sunlight will bow for the reasons you stated, hence the vapor barrier beneath it and shade rec.

I've never heard advice to store stock upright but I've been wrong before. If anyone has anything scientific on this I would like to read it.

Sleepers are scrap lumber layed on the ground or between layers of stacked lumber to maintain airflow. Also can be used to refer to tapered stock used to add slope to an otherwise flat surface (i.e. A flat roof, concrete slab, shower pan ) before installing sheathing or sub-floor
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I believe the big box stores stand their 1x stock upright as a space saving consideration. Lumber that is left flat on the ground or in direct sunlight will bow for the reasons you stated, hence the vapor barrier beneath it and shade rec.

I've never heard advice to store stock upright but I've been wrong before. If anyone has anything scientific on this I would like to read it.

Sleepers are scrap lumber layed on the ground or between layers of stacked lumber to maintain airflow. Also can be used to refer to tapered stock used to add slope to an otherwise flat surface (i.e. A flat roof, concrete slab, shower pan ) before installing sheathing or sub-floor

Here we call them stickers.
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Here we call them stickers.
Yep, I grew up in MD. We called 'em chocks. First time somebody in PA called them sleepers we had to have a period of instruction.

In MD, all soda pop is called Coke, as in "You want a coke with that value meal?", "Sure, how about a medium Pepsi"

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sleepers, stickers also worked for a master framing carpenter that called it "gunnage" when is 2x material typically the wood used by lumber yards to allow space for forklifts to get the forks under a lift so to lift it
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Steel is less organic than wood? Both come from the earth and both receive significant human manipulation before YOU get it.

Huh? Yeah, steel is a lot less organic than wood. Organic (before the hippies got hold of the word) means deriving from organisms (which wood is and steel is not) or more technically, made of compounds of carbon and hydrogen. Which again wood is, and steel is not. Your tires are organic, because they come from petroleum with was once living organisms. Benzene, which is a pretty nasty carcinogen is an organic hydrocarbon.

Organic doesn't mean "all groovy and natural and healthy" and it doesn't mean "coming from the earth".
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sleepers, stickers also worked for a master framing carpenter that called it "gunnage" when is 2x material typically the wood used by lumber yards to allow space for forklifts to get the forks under a lift so to lift it

Must be a maritime thing. Everywhere else] in CAN it's called dunnage.
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sleepers, stickers also worked for a master framing carpenter that called it "gunnage" when is 2x material typically the wood used by lumber yards to allow space for forklifts to get the forks under a lift so to lift it

Must be a Maritimer thing. Everywhere else in CAN it's called dunnage.
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Huh? Yeah, steel is a lot less organic than wood. Organic (before the hippies got hold of the word) means deriving from organisms (which wood is and steel is not) or more technically, made of compounds of carbon and hydrogen. Which again wood is, and steel is not. Your tires are organic, because they come from petroleum with was once living organisms. Benzene, which is a pretty nasty carcinogen is an organic hydrocarbon.

Organic doesn't mean "all groovy and natural and healthy" and it doesn't mean "coming from the earth".
Steel is not comprised, in part, of carbon? Iron + carbon = Steel. No?

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