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Old 04-06-2013, 01:26 PM   #16
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as to one question asked earlier, 3.5" nails nailed opposite each other on he hangers, all you need is a slight angle and they wont hit each other.

As to the est, I really do not understand what you are attempting to accomplish.


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One thing you might want to check out.... if you start modifying the structure of that house, will you need to bring it up to current California code requirements?
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:16 PM   #18
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I cannot speak for your area or building department, but in my area construction such as this would require a building permit, and structural elements such as proposed would need to be designed by a professional engineer. Post & beam type construction is not prescriptive construction in the 2009 International Residential Code, which I do believe is the basis of the residential building code in Cali. http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/st...010-000008.htm

structural design is best left to knowledgeable and qualified individuals that can evaluate for themselves on-site the existing conditions and the construction you propose. An internet forum is certainly the last place I would attempt to seek structural design guidance since I do not know the people, their experience and knowledge or qualifications.

what you propose may or may not work depending on how loads are transferred through you home. it would be best to have a professional engineer prepare drawings and specifications that would demonstrate compliance with your building code and generally accepted engineering practices.

I am having a hard time like hand drive said wrapping my brain around a 19' long 4x4 that is supporting structural loads since I cannot view for myself the actual construction and the vertical distance between lateral supports. I would say that installing beams as your propose would reduce the unsupported vertical distance and may reduce the chances of buckling, however I do not know the species of wood and what affect these additional loads would have on the column and whether the column can support these compressive forces, or what requirements your code has for lateral loads.

Best advise I can give is hire a professional engineer. Good luck!

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Old 04-06-2013, 03:14 PM   #19
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I'd absolutely get a local engineer to explain what's going on there. When notions like "ran out of money" come into the equation I'd be VERY cautious about going forward without real engineering being considered. At the very least, see if you can get the original plans that were filed when it was built.

That and a few more pictures of the whole space would probably help. I can't quite grasp just where that space is and how it being that size makes any sense, to say nothing of the posts. Was this some sort of split-level style house or something?


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