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Old 08-22-2011, 01:48 PM   #1
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I'm finishing off half of my basement and will be installing a custom double door to the unfinished side. The problem is that the doorway falls in the middle of the I-beam for the house. Rather than install a six foot high door all the way across, which would be terrible, I opted to build the jamb in an "L" shape. There will be a door 33-3/8"w by 71-1/8"h under the I-beam and then a 24-9/16"w by 78-3/8"h door where the I-beam ends. I wish the taller door could be wider, but the jamb already butts up pretty close to the stair landing.

Pretty stupid on my part, but it wasn't until I had already brought the slab doors home that I realized due to the different amounts I needed to trim off the top and bottom of each door that the paneling on them wouldn't line up. I thought about switching them out for solid no-panel doors, but I'm afraid that a five foot width of solid white might look a little too industrial or otherwise strange. Not that my other options won't look a little strange....

- Option 1: Hang the doors with the paneling offset. (My brother the architect thought this was a terrible idea and would be very visually distracting).
- Option 2: Flip the doors upside down so the small panels are on the bottom. (More room to trim on the intended bottom so it's possible to get the paneling lined up this way).
- Option 3: ??????

PS - Not really looking to spend the time or money on having custom doors built.....

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Old 08-22-2011, 02:38 PM   #2
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Have to go with your brother on his observation, it just wouldn't look right, I think the only option you have is the smaller of the panels on both doors at the bottom, or you could use a solid door for the short door and 6 panel for the taller one, or given I am sure that the shorter door will not get used very often other than access, just build a removable wall section.

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Old 08-22-2011, 03:12 PM   #3
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It's funny because my original plan was to frame a "false wall" that was hinged and had some heavy duty wheels. I decided that this just wasn't very practical, though. I also thought about doing what you suggested by using a plain slab door for the short/wide side and then paint it to match the wall, but decided this would look rather strange, too. I suppose there is no perfect solution here since I'm trying to build a french door with two different sized doors.....
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Paint the doors the wall color. I do that all the time and really like the way the trim stands up in doing so. I would use a flat slab door. Just my opinion
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:23 PM   #5
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The only issue with that is there wouldn't be trim between the two doors except for maybe an astragal of some kind....trim on the left and top will also be fairly limited due to clearance.
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Still, why not just paint the doors to match the walls. There would not be those big white squares that I find distracting to an area.

Way off your thoughts but an option. How about fabric panels. The attached photos show a simple track with a flat panel of fabric (the curtain on my slider). No real visable hardward, just a nice piece of fabric that will move and pleat up nicely out of the way when it is not needed to hide anything or for passage.

Remember I am a "decorator, lol".
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Well, this is the Carpentry thread.

Definitely need air seal between the insulated side of the basement and the unfinished mechanical side.
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Point taken

I will point out that with the proper material, linings and construction of the panel you might get better insulation value since there will be no gaps.

I would rather have a down coat than a wooden barrel in a snow storm.

Just one more thought and I promise I will leave you alone, lol, you would have to use solid wood doors to cut that much off of them no matter if right side up or not. That stupid cardboard filling---------------
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I went ahead and hung them upside down. As I bring people over to the new man cave I'll have to ask them if they notice anything funny about the doors (besides the height differential). Also, something else that occurred to me when I was working through this problem is that I could cut some pine squares and glue them in over the smaller panels on the bottom. With some wood filler and primer you'd never know the panels were ever there.

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Wow that looks bad. There is hardly any "kick plate" on those doors now. Just looks wrong and if you wanted a different looking door they make more then just store brand 6 panel doors. Sorry if I am being harsh but you asked for it on a public forum.
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I don't disagree with you. I definitely wasn't excited about hanging them that way. Oddly enough most four panel doors have the smaller panels on the bottom. But yes, the lack of a kick plate looks weird. Basically any door that has paneling is going to give me a problem in this application. I didn't really want to go with two plain slab doors; I thought it would look a little too "warehouse" or "industrial".

The thought of taking out the time to build two custom doors completely from scratch is too much for me at this point since I'm already a year into this remodel and getting kind of tired of it, frankly. Plus I have season tickets for Badger football and Pack are defending Super Bowl champs so there goes my weekends.

Given how little time it would take to fit in some pine squares over the bottom panels I might go that route. These doors are going to get primed and painted, anyway.
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I think I would have hung them the right way up and rebuilt the left hand door to fit
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I went ahead and hung them upside down. As I bring people over to the new man cave I'll have to ask them if they notice anything funny about the doors (besides the height differential). Also, something else that occurred to me when I was working through this problem is that I could cut some pine squares and glue them in over the smaller panels on the bottom. With some wood filler and primer you'd never know the panels were ever there.

http://www.patrickdaley.com/wpg2?g2_...2_itemId=42703

To tell you the truth, I do not think it looks all that bad. Different yes, bad no. Go with it. A man cave should have some shock value somewhere!!
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It looks fine. It adds character. Just mark one door democrats and the other republicans.
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I'm curious how it would have looked just to hack the top off of the short door down to the cross member below the small panels, leave the sides to full height of the opening, and replace whatever height was needed in the center section with a piece of 2x6 or 2x4 as needed. That way the kick plate remains at the bottom and the panels line up.

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