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MikeVila 12-07-2008 01:14 PM

Framing a whirlpool deck!
 
Looking for a closeup pic of a framed whirlpool island with a 45 degree on it. I have a 5' corner unit where I will have 45's to frame. Anyone have a closeup pic. I have an idea what I am going to do but would like to get a second opinion. I was thinking just cut the top and bottom plates at 45's. But what about studding? Really could use a pic for a visual.

Termite 12-07-2008 05:04 PM

Assume you're talking about a whirlpool bathtub in a bathroom...
Use 3/4 plywood for the top and bottom plates. Cut them the same shape using one to outline the other, or cut them at the same time. That way you don't have a weak plate splice at the corner. The plywood can serve as the deck and the plates at the same time.

MikeVila 12-07-2008 05:39 PM

Yes, whirlpool for a bathroom. Corner unit. I am buildint it out of 2x6 lumber. It will have a 2x top and bottom plate and then 2x studs in between roughly 16"o.c. except where there are obstructions due to the jet plumbing or such. I will then use 3/4" plywood, 1/4" Hardie board, and then tile. Just wanted to get an idea of what my 45degree framing members should be like.

Orangeguy 12-07-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVila (Post 195235)
Yes, whirlpool for a bathroom. Corner unit. I am buildint it out of 2x6 lumber. It will have a 2x top and bottom plate and then 2x studs in between roughly 16"o.c. except where there are obstructions due to the jet plumbing or such. I will then use 3/4" plywood, 1/4" Hardie board, and then tile. Just wanted to get an idea of what my 45degree framing members should be like.

sounds good ! do not have pics handy to show you how I have done it in past however I think I can describe it!?
cut top and bottom 2x6 plates with 22.5* angle at ends .place stud (verticles) at shortest side of angle .attach stud 90* to plate and repeat for other side .what you should have at this point is a "V" shaped post from top view.measure the distance from the outside point of plate to the stud then rip on a table saw 2x2's cut at 22.5* down one side .these are the corner blocks that will fill in and make a perfect corner.Ok maybe not so easy to desribe but that work's well for me! I would also recomend the use of a kerdi membrane by schluter or equivalent product on the horizontal surfaces before tile!it will last a longer time and beleive it or not will keep grout from going moldy as fast! take care! build safe!:thumbup:

MikeVila 12-07-2008 07:31 PM

I got about a halfway visual on it. Any way you could find the pics. You know the saying, "thousand words" and all. Lowes doesn't carry Kerdi membrane do they? I have read about the paint on RedGard I believe it is over at John Bridge forum. I also read not to use drywall screws to attach to wall and floor. The framing that is. What should I use, deck screws? Exterior? Thx again.

Orangeguy 12-07-2008 07:40 PM

I have found that the AQC or deck screws last a very long time and absolutly agree with there use in you application.I would stay away from liquid liners ,they are very high in odour and a mess to clean up .the depot sells kerdi !it is expensive but works so well and is easy to install . I will hunt for a pic of the framing! for you! also use pl on your joints it will keep framing from shifting and poping tile!

MikeVila 12-07-2008 07:46 PM

Should I use pl or liquid nails between the framing members and the ply? I would really appreciate any pics you have. :thumbup:

Orangeguy 12-07-2008 08:03 PM

PL premium !

MikeVila 12-08-2008 04:33 PM

Did you happen to come across the photos yet? Thx.:thumbup:

Orangeguy 12-09-2008 12:02 AM

will have to send you drawings none of the pics show enough detail.will work on them asap!take care !

MikeVila 12-11-2008 07:45 PM

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Just getting back to the puter. Thank you for the drawings. Probably common knowledge to many, but it helped me out and I appreciate your time. I made a little progress this evening. Here are some pics:

I am going to make an access panel on the front and right side by the door. I am thinking about using 3/4" oak ply and then frame out openings and then screw a section of the ply there. Cover up the screws with trim pieces to make it look like a recessed piece. Won't actually be recessed but the trim will give that look to it. If you can visualize what I mean. Plan on tiling the deck surface. Still have alot of work to do, especially when you just do some here and there. The framing is still free standing at the moment. 5 individual frames as of now.

jamiedolan 12-11-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangeguy (Post 195292)
PL premium !

Is PL better the liquid nails?
Jamie

Orangeguy 12-12-2008 03:45 PM

pl premium has been without fail for me!it holds up even when wet!looks good Mikevila ,just need a couple more 2x6 on that front edge that is where everyone will sit!looks good but no corner blocks!

MikeVila 12-13-2008 04:26 PM

Yeah not 100percent yet. Like you said, I have to put the studs and corner blocking in the front panel yet. I am going to make the front panel have access to the plumbing and then a side panel for the pump, fixture, wiring.

MikeVila 12-18-2008 12:43 AM

I smell some SPAM and eggs cooking this morning!:thumbup:


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