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bote110 02-24-2013 11:54 AM

First time baseboard and crown molding
 
I'm about to treck on this job , New house no baseboards yet all are stored in the attic but getting ready to start , have a miter saw, air compressor and nail guns {what size nail should be use for baseboard 16 or 18 strait nail?} Going to start with the easy ones that are strait cut {walls with no corners} .
Looking for info on doing inside and outside corners any good web sites or books that will help.

ltd 02-24-2013 09:16 PM

I have found helpful videos on YouTube. also try posting under carpentry. might have more response :yes:

joecaption 02-24-2013 11:13 PM

First figure out how the studs are spaced.
Once you get the spacing a simple way to know where to nail is to simply lay out a tape measure on the floor and go by the marks. Most tapes will have every 16" marked.
All inside corners need to be coped or the gaps will open up.
If you buy on of these before starting your joint will come out tight evey time because inside and outside corners are almost never a perfect 90.
http://www.amazon.com/Starrett-505P-.../dp/B003CJSQ4S

To make the crown a whole lot simpler buy one of these.
I think Lowes carry it.
http://www.amazon.com/Bench-Dog-10-0.../dp/B000OR8JJ8
Super simple to use.

bote110 02-25-2013 04:19 PM

This is under Carpentry !

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Originally Posted by ltd (Post 1124231)
I have found helpful videos on YouTube. also try posting under carpentry. might have more response :yes:


bote110 02-25-2013 04:20 PM

Real nice tool to have in my box!! Thanks!
Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1124325)
First figure out how the studs are spaced.
Once you get the spacing a simple way to know where to nail is to simply lay out a tape measure on the floor and go by the marks. Most tapes will have every 16" marked.
All inside corners need to be coped or the gaps will open up.
If you buy on of these before starting your joint will come out tight evey time because inside and outside corners are almost never a perfect 90.
http://www.amazon.com/Starrett-505P-.../dp/B003CJSQ4S

To make the crown a whole lot simpler buy one of these.
I think Lowes carry it.
http://www.amazon.com/Bench-Dog-10-0.../dp/B000OR8JJ8
Super simple to use.


jaydevries 02-25-2013 04:44 PM

sears has a good crown mold holder it is design so you cut it the way it sits on the wall a lot less confusion for a beginner
could not find it on there web site

jaydevries 02-25-2013 04:55 PM

also learn how to cope your inside corners some use a coping saw others use a jig saw but i almost always use my mitre for the straights and table saw for the rest then polish off with a file
the angle finder is a great tool use it all the time but i still cut the angle it says on 2 12 to 16 inch scrape pieces to make sure i do not have to bevel them also

joecaption 02-25-2013 05:01 PM

What I do is back cut the base to get it ready to cope, then flip it o ver and cut all the way down close to the Roman Ogee at a 22-1/2 deg. angle.
That way I'm only having to cope the Ogee not the straight part.

kaschmid3 02-25-2013 05:08 PM

Me to joe much easier especially with harder woods

jagans 02-25-2013 06:06 PM

I build all my walls with a double bottom plate so I dont have to stud hunt. You have all your doors cased already right? I got tired of using a coping saw, and believe it or not. I cut my corners at 45 degrees, then form the cope with my 10 inch table saw with the blade all the way up. Yes I am very careful, and it works great.

jaydevries 02-25-2013 06:46 PM

hey jagens i too for years been doing that way it works great for the crowns that have the spots where there is the big back cut needed.just need to lower the blade a little and for the long pieces i use my ridgid flip top behind me to support the trim
http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/AC9934-W...t/EN/index.htm
now they have the copemaster for a few thousand dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDIHtYC_Hik

kaschmid3 02-25-2013 10:23 PM

So I take it u don't use pre cut studs

kaschmid3 02-25-2013 10:24 PM

Never heard of using table saw for copes always use coping saw

bote110 02-26-2013 06:55 PM

Quick question , does both inside corners have a 45* angel or just one side and the other side you cope to fit the angel?

woodworkbykirk 02-26-2013 06:55 PM

i also use the starrett mitre finder, they work wonders.. i dont cut my mitre on the exact angle though. for outside corners i cut the 1/2 a degree greater which compensates for any irregularities in the corner bead.. for inside corners i go 1/2 a degree less it keeps the face tight

i use to cope absolutely everything but i get the same results with mites but only with paint grade.. stain grade still gets coped.. i use a jigsaw with a fine cut blade.. then i tune it up with a knife and sand paper.. ive done the table saw thing its ok but for softer mdf it makes a mess really quick as cheap mdf moldings chip too easily


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