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Old 01-30-2013, 08:37 PM   #1
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I need to put a fire door in an existing wall separating a garage from a bedroom. The garage side of the wall is stucco, the interior is drywall. My main concern right now is making sure I install it correctly to keep the fire rating intact. Do I need to put in extra insulation around the door?

I'm going to use a pre-hung 90 min fire rated door, but i'm going to have to move some studs around, put a header in, and all that in the existing wall. I have never done this before. Words of wisdom, advice, necessary things I must do with out fail? This is all happening in SoCal.

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your not allowed to have a doorway going from a bedroom directly into a garage as per fire code..

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Oh, we'll so much for that.

So, there is another wall I could use from the garage to the laundry room. Its a clean wall, the dryer and washer are on the oppesite side, just won't be as convienient. Same questions apply.
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your not allowed to have a doorway going from a bedroom directly into a garage as per fire code..
Actually it no longer becomes a bedroom, but a living or working area. Plus you have to remove the closet doors.
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your right greg.. as long as the room isnt a bedroom your fine... as stated for fire reasons and fumes
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Friends had to do that for one room, like the Op is wanting to do. Funny thing is, Iowa taxes by the bedroom, and right now it is used as a guest room/office space, so they got under the radar on it.
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Oh, we'll so much for that.

So, there is another wall I could use from the garage to the laundry room. Its a clean wall, the dryer and washer are on the oppesite side, just won't be as convienient. Same questions apply.
Just do both, and also check with your local taxing authority, is tey do as I stated with friends of ours in Iowa, which taxes you by the number of physical finished sleeping areas in the structure.
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Sweet! Thanks everyone for all the great info. I'll stick with my original plan first. The "bedroom" will not actually be used as a bedroom any way. So, about actually building it...?

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typically a fire rated door from garage to interior space must be either a 20-minute rated door or a minimum 1-3/8" solid core.
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typically a fire rated door from garage to interior space must be either a 20-minute rated door or a minimum 1-3/8" solid core.
Depends on the area. Some require a min. 2 hour burn for the door. 20 min is nothing, when you actually think about it.

To add, anyone with a older style smoke detector, not a photo-cell type, it can take at least 35 min's before you are aware that a fire is happening somewhere in the home, if it is smoldering, and not raging. Even if it is raging, it can take 17 min's max, before the older style detectors go off.
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true, I was providing the 2009 International Residential Code requirement, as it only requires 1/2" drywall on the wall to separate the garage from living space.

R302.5.1 Opening protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openings between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 13⁄8 inches (35 mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 13⁄8 inches (35 mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.

gregzoll is correct, best to check with local authorities

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