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Richo 03-02-2009 01:14 AM

Finishing basement stairway
 
Hello,

I'm looking to finish a basement stairway with carpeting and wood trim and from what I see of finished stairways, often times there is a wood trim piece at the treads parallel to the hand rail....see photo...

Do most builders leave a gap for this piece of wood on either side of the treads/risers so it doesn't need to be cut around each step or is it usually cut to fit afterward?

I have my share of woodworking experience and a well equipped shop but it sounds like it's a lot of jigsaw work and a bit of a pain to cut out, especially since the treads overhang the risers on the stairway I'm looking to work on.

Can anyone offer any suggestions? Thanks.
http://www.bananasentertainment.com/eformat/stairs.jpg

DangerMouse 03-02-2009 06:01 AM

not jigsaw (sabre saw) but jig/router work. the treads are inlaid into the routed openings.

DM

buletbob 03-02-2009 06:10 AM

if those stairs shown are the ones you want to trim , Then whats wrong with the skirt board in the Picture?.I 'm assuming your referring to the skirt board! Right?

DangerMouse 03-02-2009 06:17 AM

mornin' bob! C\_/ <---coffee?

i think that's a photo he found online? he's wanting to build new. (but that was my first thought too! until i re-read it)

DM

buletbob 03-02-2009 06:33 AM

Morning Mouse,What a way to start the day!:laughing: He should of posted the pic along with his stairs to see what he;s up against. This way we could all jump in with ideas.:thumbsup: BOB

DangerMouse 03-02-2009 06:44 AM

well....."finish" could mean a lot of things...
i agree though, a pic of what he's up against would be helpful.

DM

Willie T 03-02-2009 08:42 AM

Yes, most builders try to go easy on the trim guy by setting the stringers away from the walls with a piece of lumber called a "spacing ledger", so the kickboard (skirt) will slide down alongside. But sometimes they don't... then it is saw & router time.

If you are not all that familiar with building stairs, one of the guys over on Contractor Talk forum has put together a pretty comprehensive tutorial about how to build basic stairways.

He has said we can share it any way we choose, so I will send you the PDF if you PM me. (or at least, I'll get the site address to you)

DangerMouse 03-02-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie T (Post 239059)
I will send you the PDF if you PM me. (or at least, I'll get the site address to you)

whatta pal, whatta pal!

DM

Willie T 03-02-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerMouse (Post 239068)
whatta pal, whatta pal!

DM

Hey, Max did all the work on this, not me. And it is his generosity that is providing it freely to others.

Richo 03-02-2009 12:33 PM

You are correct, that is a picture I found online. The skirt board is what I'm referring to. I don't have an actual picture of the stairway. It's at my girlfriend's house 30 miles away but I can easily describe it.

Much like the photo in my first post, the stairs have finished drywall on either side and it's just MDF treads/risers. The treads overhang the risers by about an inch if I were to guess.

I though that a jigsaw was just another name for a sabre saw :huh:

I suppose if I make a pattern that perfectly matches one tread/riser and then use it to cut out the skirt board, that would do the trick. I could rough it out with a saw and then use a router to clean it up.

Do most trim guys try to use one solid board for the skirt? I was thinking of veneered plywood with an applied edge to save on material cost but it would require a joint somewhere in the middle of the stair case.

Willie, does the documentation you have talk about all the steps of finishing off a stairway?

DangerMouse 03-02-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Richo (Post 239176)
I thought that a jigsaw was just another name for a sabre saw

TECHnically no, although most people call a sabre a jigsaw (including manufacturers), not many call a true jigsaw (which some also call a scroll saw) a sabre!
and some manufaturers also market reciprocating saws (sawzalls) as sabre saws. go figure..... it's a fuzzy line anyone can cross.....

DM

Richo 03-02-2009 01:10 PM

When I say "jigsaw" I'm referring to the photo on the left. I don't have that exact one but what I have is similar. I would never call a scroll saw a jigsaw :no:

Scuba_Dave 03-02-2009 01:44 PM

I'm actually building a staircase & I'm going to space the riser out from the wall. Then I can just slide the trim piece down - no trimming or messing around

bjbatlanta 03-02-2009 02:52 PM

If the treads overhang the risers, pull them up and put the skirt board in. Cut the treads to size and replace. Or buy actual bullnose tread material and put in new treads. The MDF is temporary until a finished product is installed.

Willie T 03-02-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerMouse (Post 239190)
TECHnically no, although most people call a sabre a jigsaw (including manufacturers), not many call a true jigsaw (which some also call a scroll saw) a sabre!
and some manufaturers also market reciprocating saws (sawzalls) as sabre saws. go figure..... it's a fuzzy line anyone can cross.....

DM

Pretty much interchangeable terminology. In fact one company (Japanese or Chinese, I think) calls their scroll saw a "Jogging Jigsaw".

Now I'll stir the pot with another name for them both (AND for a coping saw) that's... "Fretsaw". Just to make it more confusing, the fret saw is made in a couple of versions... one looks like a flush cutting back saw.


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