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Tibz35 07-14-2013 07:50 PM

Fence on staggered property line
 
Ok this may be a silly question, but looking for some guidance.

I can build the fence no problem, but I'm confused as to how to setup the posts. In the below picture, where should the posts be? I was originally thinking that I'd put the posts at my property line corner, but then how will the other side fence come off of this?

I don't know how to explain this properly, but the area circled is only about 3ft...so if I was to put a post on my corner, then would another post be installed 3ft after?


http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d2e508a.jpg

gregzoll 07-14-2013 08:04 PM

Get with the other property owners, then find a fence company that all the home owners will agree to pay, to have the same type of fencing put in, not different styles or materials.

Let the fencing company do the hard work. To tell you the truth, they will go every eight feet, place a post. As for the one street that is odd, they would know how to transition for that set of fences.

The hiring of a fence company is the best option, getting a bunch of home owners who do not have a clue, causes headaches and conflicts. Of course you will always have one or two who will not put any money into the cause, so still it is something that I would explain to them how it will work in the best interest of all.

As for the neighborhood, are we talking low income, middle income, high income, or mixed income and mixed residential (ie leasing, renters, home owners.).

wkearney99 07-14-2013 08:12 PM

What Greg said, float the idea to your bordering neighbors and see what they have in mind.

Is there a homeowners association involved with these properties? That'd be a whole other rats nest to contend with...

Otherwise, mind where yours need to go and let the others deal with their own as they choose. Yes, that'd have the neighbors behind you dealing with an oddball placement of another post for their corner.

If you're all neighborly that area might suit itself well to a couple of gates to allow easy travel between the yards.

Tibz35 07-15-2013 04:18 AM

Thanks for the replies. We've already spoken to the neighbours and there are a couple that are not willing to share the cost... That is why right now I am considering it myself. As I mentioned, the actual building of the fence is very straight forward for me, just the layout of the corner posts is what is throwing me off... If I was to do it myself, I'd want to make sure it is done properly so the neighbours can build off it.

It is a middle income type of street....

kwikfishron 07-15-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibz35 (Post 1215962)
don't know how to explain this properly, but the area circled is only about 3ft...so if I was to put a post on my corner, then would another post be installed 3ft after?

Yes, you need a post at every intersection.

joecaption 07-15-2013 06:09 AM

Also check with your local building dept. to see if there's a permit needed, property line offset requirements, height restrictions.
Skip some steps and they can make you take it all down.

gregzoll 07-15-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibz35 (Post 1216118)
Thanks for the replies. We've already spoken to the neighbours and there are a couple that are not willing to share the cost... That is why right now I am considering it myself. As I mentioned, the actual building of the fence is very straight forward for me, just the layout of the corner posts is what is throwing me off... If I was to do it myself, I'd want to make sure it is done properly so the neighbours can build off it.

It is a middle income type of street....

You are opening up a large can of worms, doing this without the neighbors consent. Regardless what the other two do not like, give everyone four choices, and the fourth being no fencing at all. There are just some that want to be able to look out and see what others are doing, or not be divided by a fence, and feel that they are in a prison, and unable to just go to the property line and talk to their backyard neighbor.

GBrackins 07-15-2013 11:53 AM

why worry about a post 3' from your corner? if your neighbor wants to build a fence he can but a post against your fence. They may not want the same style fence as yourself.

have you had your property surveyed (or have property corner markers?)? have you checked with your building department to determine if a building permit is required, or what the requirements are for building a fence?

just food for thought ..... good luck!

Tibz35 07-15-2013 12:01 PM

All of my immediate neighbours are onboard and willing to split the cost...Except for the houses touching their property...So I have no issues with my immediate neighbours.

As for the permit, none needed in my area. I have my survey and I've marked my area as per those dimensions, although as the pic illustrates, I want to try and be as neighbour friendly as possible when it comes to the corner post.

So basically if I put a post directly on the corner of my property line, they (whoever decides to build a fence) will have to put another post 3ft away from my post in order to intersect the back neighbours side fence?

gregzoll 07-15-2013 12:32 PM

Yes, that would be correct, due to the idiotic developer did not make the lots square on grid, when they plotted them out. Can you post a Satellite image from Google map of this neighborhood, to give all of us a better idea of the layout of the lots.

creeper 07-15-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1216249)
Yes, that would be correct, due to the idiotic developer did not make the lots square on grid, when they plotted them out. Can you post a Satellite image from Google map of this neighborhood, to give all of us a better idea of the layout of the lots.

Woah,,Greg A little harsh on the developer. The grid is not laid out in a perfect checkerboard fashion.

I'm a Realtor in the op's area and I see lots like this all the time. Plenty of curved streets and cul de sacs and pie shaped lots. How else is the lay of the land going to be accounted for

gregzoll 07-15-2013 01:00 PM

In our area, the lots are laid out in a grid pattern, so that when the developer or homeowner lays fences along the property line, you can look down the length, and see a nice straight line, whether it is from one street to the other, or one side of the middle between along the easement, to the other end of the easement.

Only time you see a difference in lot lines, like in the case of the OP, is in the older neighborhoods, or newer neighborhoods where we have alleyways or a 12-14 foot easement between the front and back property, so that utilities can get through that area, and then you have two rows of fences along the back of the lots.

Tibz35 07-15-2013 01:05 PM

Yes sorry the backyard neighbours street is a curved lot so there is a bit of an angle there...although this is the best I can do as a satelite pic (It is a new area so not much available) - Also note that I believe my house is the one to the south of the yellow lines...Not built yet in this picture.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psb9147de7.jpg

creeper 07-15-2013 01:07 PM

I'll see what I can pull off of land registry without posting confidential details

Tibz35 07-15-2013 01:12 PM

That would be excellent thank you very much...if anything you could PM me...Cheers


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