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gordie howe 10-27-2008 04:33 PM

failing miserably at screwing in 2 inch deck screws
 
recently, the hinged gate on our deck fell off, I noticed it was because the screws simply gave out eventually. They had probably held on for a good 10 years.

So, local hardware store suggested I use the same holes but use slightly thicker screw to re-bore the hole. the problem is, man, it's tough. I tried using drill bit but I kept on destroying the head of the screw, no matter how slow and steady I went.

And if i did it manually, I simply could not get the muscle to screw it in the last 1/4 to 1/2 inch.

It was actually much easier to unscrew the other old screws that I figured I would remove since I may as well replace the other screws that were on the same piece of wood (cedar).

Any suggestions? Frankly I would like to even use a longer screw (2.5 inches?) but maybe that would even be worse.

Thanks

buletbob 10-27-2008 04:54 PM

being you went with a larger screw, did you drill a bigger hole in the hinge? the shank of the new screw could be catching on the hinge. BOB

Termite 10-27-2008 05:21 PM

Are you using a drill? Putting really solid pressure into the screw with it?

(pretty much impossible with a screwdriver) :no:

jogr 10-27-2008 05:25 PM

First try square headed screws and a square headed driver in your screw gun. They don't strip easily and you'll probabbly be able to go with the longer screws.

A little soap on the screw threads can help too.

And lastly try predrilling a slightly larger hole than you have.

DangerMouse 10-27-2008 05:46 PM

shouldn't be any problem at all if you pre-drill the holes, (pick a bit about the size of the screw's inner shank) then set the screws. soap always helps too.... just don't try to drill into the old holes if the old screws are broken off in there, you may have been snagging on them already?

DM

aggreX 10-27-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gordie howe (Post 177502)
So, local hardware store suggested I use the same holes but use slightly thicker screw to re-bore the hole. the problem is, man, it's tough. I tried using drill bit but I kept on destroying the head of the screw, no matter how slow and steady I went. And if i did it manually, I simply could not get the muscle to screw it in the last 1/4 to 1/2 inch. Any suggestions? Frankly I would like to even use a longer screw (2.5 inches?) but maybe that would even be worse

The problem may be the quality of the new screws, worn out bit driver, or your technique. If you cannot do it manually then the hole needs to be slightly enlarged and deeper. The soap trick usually works well; just make sure the hole is deep enough. I have made the switch to an small impact driver to minimize screw head damage but your project should not be difficult with a drill with a good bit. FYI: Bob got a good tip to check the size of the hinge holes.

DUDE! 10-27-2008 07:02 PM

its not new, still wet pressure treated but anyway, I sometimes spray the screws with WD-40, now I wouldn't do a complete deck with it, but for changing out some of the screws, I hit the hole spot, spit some on the screws and screw'er in., First time I ever used a cordless screw gun, guy I was with spent alot of time screaming something about more pressure on the gun, I stripped alot of screw heads learning.

skymaster 10-27-2008 07:04 PM

Buy EXTERIOR DECK SCREWS, square or torx drive, if you have alot to do invest in a impact driver, all your troubles will go away:thumbup:

buletbob 10-27-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by skymaster (Post 177574)
Buy EXTERIOR DECK SCREWS, square or torx drive, if you have alot to do invest in a impact driver, all your troubles will go away:thumbup:

I Agree!





























agree!

DangerMouse 10-27-2008 07:31 PM

all these posts for screwing in a screw!!! manoman, are we thorough here or WHAT? roflmao

DM

gordie howe 10-27-2008 08:17 PM

great replies
 
thanks to everyone for replying so fast!

I did try to pre-drill hole first but the soap technique I will definitely try.

thanks. I'll give her a shot.

Marvin Gardens 10-27-2008 08:59 PM

Impact driver. Once you use one of those you will wonder why you didn't have one years ago.

skymaster 10-27-2008 09:49 PM

DM: Us old PROFESSIONAL SCREWERS are only trying to help you youngsters do things right. :laughing::jester::smartass::devil2:

Lansing 10-28-2008 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skymaster (Post 177640)
DM: Us old PROFESSIONAL SCREWERS are only trying to help you youngsters do things right. :laughing::jester::smartass::devil2:

Yes yes that right on there:yes:...If only we had someone to show us the way when we started out...:whistling2:Boy oh Boy ...The group out there now have it made...

Clutchcargo 10-28-2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MdangermouseM (Post 177588)
all these posts for screwing in a screw!!! manoman, are we thorough here or WHAT? roflmao

DM

It's not thorough until someone posts a link to a video on how to screw in a screw.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/801387...o_screw_screw/


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