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11-28-2010, 07:56 AM
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Love to see you get excited Joe. Are you happy now he is getting a permit.
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You really think anyone here on this site gets me excited? What makes you think he's getting a permit?
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11-28-2010, 08:16 AM
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Framing Contractor
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The guy is finishing off his attic and making it a room. Like I said in my first post, what about the floor joists? His attic ceiling is no longer a ceiling, it's a floor. Ceiling joist are not designed to be floor joists. Does anyone here think this is not an issue?
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11-28-2010, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Carola
The guy is finishing off his attic and making it a room. Like I said in my first post, what about the floor joists? His attic ceiling is no longer a ceiling, it's a floor. Ceiling joist are not designed to be floor joists. Does anyone here think this is not an issue?
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Of course it's an issue, Joe, but we're just answering the guy's question about replacing existing drywall.
When he comes back to tell us his floor is like a spring board, then we can deal with that!
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11-28-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgins
Of course it's an issue, Joe, but we're just answering the guy's question about replacing existing drywall.
When he comes back to tell us his floor is like a spring board, then we can deal with that!
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That is the dangerous pattern this forum takes. The DIY'ers have to be told how to DIR, (Do It Right) not DIW (Do It Wrong).
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11-28-2010, 12:24 PM
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***drywall permit?***
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Originally Posted by Joe Carola
That is the dangerous pattern this forum takes. The DIY'ers have to be told how to DIR, (Do It Right) not DIW (Do It Wrong).
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Well of course it is and thats why we have disclaimers. You're perfectly right, but I think we have to assume most of them have a modicum of sense. No offense meant!
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11-28-2010, 12:40 PM
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Framing Contractor
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Originally Posted by mrgins
Well of course it is and thats why we have disclaimers.
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What are they?
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You're perfectly right, but I think we have to assume most of them have a modicum of sense. No offense meant!
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You would think.Quite a few don't have any sense. Have you read some of the threads here where people do structural work first without any common sense/knowledge/permits/inspections (with no intention of getting permits/inspections) and then come here and ask questions after the fact.
Have you read the responses some here give advising the size of structural headers/beams that are to small and won't work without seeing the house?
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11-28-2010, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Carola
You really think anyone here on this site gets me excited?
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Yes...
Last edited by Scuba_Dave; 11-28-2010 at 08:02 PM.
Reason: fixed quote
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11-28-2010, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Carola
What are they?
You would think.Quite a few don't have any sense. Have you read some of the threads here where people do structural work first without any common sense/knowledge/permits/inspections (with no intention of getting permits/inspections) and then come here and ask questions after the fact.
Have you read the responses some here give advising the size of structural headers/beams that are to small and won't work without seeing the house?
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This website has disclaimers on it.
I know about the novices on here. That's why we're here.
Take a deep breath! Not worth getting overexcited about it 
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11-28-2010, 09:11 PM
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Framing Contractor
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Originally Posted by mrgins
This website has disclaimers on it.
I know about the novices on here. That's why we're here.
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And you have novices giving out structural advice. What's scary iis that when they do give out bad structural advice, I hope someone here who is smart enough corrects them before the poster takes their bad advice and hurts someone.
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Take a deep breath! Not worth getting overexcited about it
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Just to let you know, this is the way I talk. I'm am not, nor will ever get overly excited here. So, there's no need at all for me to take a deep breath.
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11-29-2010, 03:10 PM
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The building codes are usually slightly behind the problems in the industry. As of 2009, attic spaces,even used for storage, are required to meet certain aspects of the IRC. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...1txlzU01V4JQIg
Did you notice floor joist ratings of 30# (as Joe said), egress requirements, stairs, smoke detector, light and ventilation, heat, etc?
IRC is minimum safety code, like a "D" on a test. No permit could lead to your H.O.Insurance not honoring a future claim or getting the added space listed on your house personal record for square footage with your County during a sale.
FL require permits for storage units and installing windows, high wind area. Check locally to be minimally safe, as suggested.
Gary
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11-30-2010, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nap
I would have to question why unless you put it on a permanent foundation. Generally such an installation is outside of the purview of the building codes.
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Why? Revenue, that's why. Figured that out when the inspector did his "inspection" from 50 feet away. And considering what I paid for the final electrical inspection on my house and how long it took, inspectors must earn about $5,000 an hour.
Where I used to live in MD, no permit was required if a shed was less than 150 square feet in size. Here, it doesn't matter - you always need a permit.
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