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Old 05-07-2010, 04:57 PM   #1
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I am trying to add some more adjustable shelves to an existing "cubby" in a mud room. There are no pin holes drilled so I bought a jig with a self centering bit from Rockler.com. It works great for spacing the holes in the right spot but I am having a hard time making sure all 4 pins are level. The jig only helps for spacing the holes.
The inside space of the cubby is about 16 inches x 14 inches. For leveling I tried using a scrap piece of 1x and leveling it with a 6 inch level, marking the inside on all 3 sides. I do this so I know where I need to place the jig to begin my drilling on each side.. I've done this twice and each time the shelf comes out a bit unlevel. Not terrible but not to my liking.
Does anyone know a handy trick to make all 4 pins spot on level each time?

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Sure it’s not the level?

Turn the level around does it read the same thing both ways?

Is there “Any” crown to your scrap piece of 1x your setting the 6” level on?

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are the pins that are there now level?

the reason i ask is you could make a jig that hangs from the level holes. just a thought small as it is
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are the pins that are there now level?
There are no pins in the "cubby" I'm adding to.

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Sure it’s not the level?

Turn the level around does it read the same thing both ways?

Is there “Any” crown to your scrap piece of 1x your setting the 6” level on?
Scrap piece is pretty level. Level could be crappy, I'll double check.
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Make a plywood template, with all the necessary holes, set it in position with its butt resting on the bottom of the cupboard and then drill away!
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Box stores sell those picture hanger levelers for about $10. The ones with the sharp pins to stick into walls. It should be small enough to use in that space.
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Ok, find out if the bottom is level, or top is level.

If bottom or top is not level, put some shelf/scrap wood there (bottom preferably) temporaraly, and shim to level in all directions. Once you have it level, take a tape measure, and measure out your holes from the temp peice that you leveled. Mark you holes every 4, 5, 6 inches, or whatever the spacing you want. So if you want 5" spacing, mark first hole at 5" mark, second at 10" mark, 3rd at 15" mark and so on, compensate for the thickness of the leveled plate that you installed, if you installed it.

Then get yourself an adjustable square, and mark off your depths from the edge to the height marks. If you don't have a square, use your tape measure from edge for the holes closest to edge, and from the back for the back holes. You now have perfectly level pin positions. Use a punch to get your dead center for the drill bit.
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Make a plywood template, with all the necessary holes, set it in position with its butt resting on the bottom of the cupboard and then drill away!

Or...forget the holes and just use the plywood to space the rockler jig from the bottom.

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