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bigburb 01-05-2012 07:07 PM

Door and window trim, touching
 
Ok I hate drywall work, as such will all of my projects involving windows I've tried to use window casing instead of a drywall return. I've got a door with windows on either side of it only about 4 inches away, this means that 2 pieces of 2 inch trim would basically be touching each other. In my head this seems like it would look weird, would it? I want to try to match the existing door casing in the house as much as possible, which is typical builders grade stuff, nothing fancy.

Bud Cline 01-05-2012 07:37 PM

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In my head this seems like it would look weird, would it?
Go for it, nothing wrong with that.

woodworkbykirk 01-05-2012 07:40 PM

first impression it sounds like a goof up on the framing,always frame for the finish meaning allow enough space for full trim to go up. in a situation like that i dont understand how there is only 4" of space. in a spot like that there should be a minimum of 5 -1/2" in between jamb extension as per proper framing methods.

if this is a retrofit situation thats different, heres where you have to get creative.. you can tweak the trim you plan on using by taking the stock trim and ripping it to 2" and butting it into one another and using a jack mitre technique at the header or you can do something custom to make it stand out a little more as its a entry way into the house via using custom milled mdf or pine

titanoman 01-05-2012 07:41 PM

Or you could go with a 1x6 instead of the two 1x3's next to each other, which is also fine. Your preference.

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woodworkbykirk 01-05-2012 08:56 PM

hes not using 1x, clearly states using actual casing

titanoman 01-05-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk (Post 813897)
hes not using 1x, clearly states using actual casing

Quack. Okay I'll put on my glasses.

Bud Cline 01-05-2012 09:01 PM

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Or you could go with a 1x6 instead of the two 1x3's next to each other,

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OP: "I want to try to match the existing door casing in the house as much as possible,"
I don't understand the 1X6 comment.

Missouri Bound 01-05-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigburb (Post 813737)
Ok I hate drywall work, as such will all of my projects involving windows I've tried to use window casing instead of a drywall return. I've got a door with windows on either side of it only about 4 inches away, this means that 2 pieces of 2 inch trim would basically be touching each other. In my head this seems like it would look weird, would it? I want to try to match the existing door casing in the house as much as possible, which is typical builders grade stuff, nothing fancy.

Got a picture of your situation...maybe it will get our collective creative juices flowing....:whistling2:

bigburb 01-05-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk (Post 813769)
first impression it sounds like a goof up on the framing

It is a goof in the framing by the previous owner, but I have to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk (Post 813769)
you can tweak the trim you plan on using by taking the stock trim and ripping it to 2" and butting it into one another and using a jack mitre technique at the header

I'm a little lost on this, can you explain a little more? Thanks.

bigburb 01-05-2012 09:23 PM

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Missouri Bound 01-05-2012 09:30 PM

Ther's a lot of options.....and I'll bet the rest of the room is already trimmed...right? I would trim the windows like the rest of the room, just change the trim on the doors to "be creative" Nothing says you can't frame the doors differently to give it a custom look. Worse come to worse you can always rip a bit off the window and door to give you a bit of spacing. I just might use a 1 X 6 around the door and butt the top window trim(s) against it. Again it's a "custom" thing. Just because it's not conventional doesn't mean it's wrong.

Bud Cline 01-05-2012 09:31 PM

Just put the casing back to back and call it done. There is nothing else to do with that that will match the rest of the house. If the windows were at the same elevation as the door there would be one other possibility but that isn't the case so refer to Post #2.:yes:

mae-ling 01-06-2012 08:35 AM

Yep back to back for quick, or make the door and both windows look like a unit with some "custom" trim. I like the idea of custom trim making the windows on each side flanking the double doors look like one unit.
With the windows lower you can still make it look good by bringing the tops of the windows across, mitre to o\go up then go across the top of the door. the pieces across the tops could be thicker stock so the vertical casing just butt into it

woodworkbykirk 01-06-2012 03:44 PM

bud is on the right track with what i meant. you have to do the casing back to back but rip it down so both peices will fit to have the correct reveal.. the jack mitre technique is more advanced and not too many guys do it. i use this method and several other not too commonly used techiques for trim which make things really pop. however i have spent a good portion of my career handling 90% of the trim on the houses that my company renovates.. i run into all sorts of odd situations that require some creative tinkering to make it look right

look up gary katz- jack mitre you should be able to get a step by step on how to do it

glkirk 01-06-2012 05:25 PM

I wonder how that was built? Is there a header spanning all the windows and door? Why are the windows lower than the door? I would want those questions answered before I wirried about trim.


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