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rtoni 06-07-2010 12:33 PM

door jamb cut - i screwed up
 
hi all - installing a pre-hung door and patting myself on the back with how well it was going. The door goes in and hangs perfectly level. When I started to cut the casing to trim it out I realized I had cut the bottom of the latch side of the jamb almost 1/4" too short. :blink: - turns out the chunk of flooring I used to gauge / mark the cutoff for the jamb on that side had some additional foam underlay stuck to the bottom and I was too stunned to notice it.

It's a small gap - I'm being anal - not sure anyone else will ever notice - and maybe once again over-thinking things - but it just bugs me (mostly because it's a stupid mistake)

I suppose I could remove everything, trim the hinge side 1/4", drop the whole thing down - but that also means I probably have to trim the bottom of the door to properly clear the t-molding, etc.

I started thinking about just running a bead of caulking across the gap at the floor. There must be times when people replace existing floor with something that sits a bit lower - hence leaving the same kind of gaps under existing jambs - what do you do in that situation?

thanks,

Thurman 06-07-2010 01:01 PM

So, I have installed numerous doors in my business and IF I stated that I had never cut a jamb too short- I would be lying. Now if I understand correctly- you have a 1/4" gap at the bottom of the door jamb for the latch side. Without knowing what tools you have available, and this would not take much, I would make a piece of wood to fill in this gap, glue it in, sand it to blend and paint over it. NO, no one should get down there to a thorough inspection, but you sound like me- -it's there and you know it. Don't make a mountain out of this little molehill, just fix it. David

rtoni 06-07-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Thurman (Post 452484)
So, I have installed numerous doors in my business and IF I stated that I had never cut a jamb too short- I would be lying.

thanks David - appreciate the advice - and the honesty :yes:.

I have a decent chop saw - I suppose I could cut a thin slice off the end of another board. Actually you just gave me an idea - when it comes time to hang the next door - assuming I have to trim those jambs too - maybe I can set one end of the jamb on the saw and slice a nice clean 1/4" off the end before I make the final cut to length.

assuming that 1/4" is not beyond what I actually need to cut, and I don't mess that one up too :whistling2:

PaliBob 06-07-2010 02:25 PM

If you have the cut off piece of jamb and a chop saw, I would superglue it to some scrap then use the chop saw to cut of a quarter inch slice of the jamb cut-off, then superglue that to the jamb leg.
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rtoni 06-07-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PaliBob (Post 452518)
If you have the cut off piece of jamb and a chop saw, I would superglue it to some scrap then use the chop saw to cut of a quarter inch slice of the jamb cut-off, then superglue that to the jamb leg.
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good idea - i hope I didn't sweep it into the scrap pile - I'll definitely look to see when I get back to the site (I did leave there in a hurry without cleaning up too well - could be a blessing in disguise)

thanks for the tip

295yards 06-08-2010 10:20 AM

Having a hard time picturing EXACTLY what you have going on.

I'd almost contemplate cutting out a bigger section of the door jamb and scraping in another section of door jamb. 1/4" is too small for me to deal with FWIW.

If you cut a bigger piece to scrap in you can shim it out to be even and solid with the other piece of jamb than shim out the other end to plumb level and true.

I'd cut a small 45* on the replacement jamb on all 3 exposed sides before you butt it up against the existing so you'll have an area to put filler in and get a better blend.

If you blend it so you can't tell it was ever wrong you'll feel like a new man!!!

rtoni 06-09-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 295yards (Post 452899)
Having a hard time picturing EXACTLY what you have going on.

basically a brain fart - I trimmed a bit off the bottom of the jamb (both sides) on the new pre-hung door to accommodate flooring + underlay (without trimming it was tight against the top of the rough opening which made it tight on the flooring - laminate). But when I trimmed the latch side I goofed on the measurement and cut about 1/4" too much. not sure where my mind was at the time. when it's all plumb and level it sits perfect along the floor on the hinge side - but there's a gap (noticeable to me) along the bottom on the latch side

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Originally Posted by 295yards (Post 452899)
I'd almost contemplate cutting out a bigger section of the door jamb and scraping in another section of door jamb. 1/4" is too small for me to deal with FWIW.

that sounds like it might be a bit less frustrating but what about the door stop - since the jamb already has this glued / nailed on, I assume I'd have to find an exact match for the size / profile of this part (guess this is pretty standard though...?). or maybe tear off the entire door stop piece and replace top to bottom along that side?

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Originally Posted by 295yards (Post 452899)
If you blend it so you can't tell it was ever wrong you'll feel like a new man!!!

:thumbsup: yeah - exactly what i need - the "old" man feeling is starting to be a real drag...

thanks everyone for the great suggestions - I know this isn't a showstopper problem around here but you know how it feels when you bust your a$$ on a project and one little messed up detail kinda takes the wind out of your sails....

295yards 06-09-2010 10:31 AM

I think you can do it both ways but FWIW just replace the whole doorstop on that side.

Cut the section out.
Pull the whole doorstop off on that side, blend the doorjam and when it is "good" put the doorstop on, remove hinges and latch, paint the whole jamb assembly, and the trim while it is off. Mount the jamb and evrything, touch up where you tacked the trim...

Grab a cold one and be proud of the job you did.

Don't beat yourself up. You found the resourses, gathered opinions and based on that YOU decided on your on what route you wanted to take.

Make it look good!


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