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Old 07-27-2014, 04:32 PM   #1
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Recently told by door salesman, the $400. fiberglass door with brickmold (32 x 80) advertised on their website will not fit the door opening to replace existing warped wooden door (32 x 80).
We must have a special order door since a "cut down" (Unit size 33 .5 x 80.75) is required, (was told the standard unit size before "cut down" is 33.5 x 81.5 model) & this doubles the prices of the door.

Can the rough door framing header be adjusted, once the rough opening is exposed to compensate for the half inch needed?
If so, so should this adjustment be less costly?

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Old 07-27-2014, 05:14 PM   #2
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Remove the casing and see how much room there is.
Often times there's more then enough room at the top.

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Old 07-27-2014, 08:07 PM   #3
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Yeah, this sounds like hogwash. The RO provided for a door is normally 2 inches on top, and one inch per side to provide for out of plumb trimmers. Like Joe said, take off the casing. Score around the casing with a utility knife first to prevent ripping of the paper on the drywall. You can always cut the siding with a circular saw ( Plywood Blade backwards, ride on a piece of pine) to allow for the brick mold.
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if the house is from the 60's or older the rough opening you gave could be right. due to how they used to set the doors with thicker threshold then install flooring. might still work but if not you can remove new threshold and cut door jamb and door and re install threshold. just make sure you cut the same of the jamb and door
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:28 PM   #5
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Thanks to everyone for your help attached are pictures of the door framing above the door with the casing removed.
Can you tell me what if anything has to be removed to have a "standard" door unit "33.5 x 81.5".
The Installer has never seen the door framing above the door with the casing removed, but somehow determined I need to purchase a higher priced "cut down" unit.
The Installer concluded the door width will accommodate the 33.5" width, without ever seeing the door frame or rough opening, but not the 81.5" height
What do you think from seeing the attached pictures?

Thanks Again,
Uni
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Looks like for some reason you have a suspended ceiling.
Why?
May have to go with a sheetrock ceiling to make it work.
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Looks like for some reason you have a suspended ceiling.
Why?
May have to go with a sheetrock ceiling to make it work.
Why will a sheetrock ceiling possibly be needed?

Can the piece of wood below the top plate be removed or resized if more vertical room is needed for the door unit?

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Is there a suspended ceiling?
How are you going to trim out the door of the door if the piece is removed?
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Yes there is a suspended ceiling.
The Installer will be trimming the door. He has not indicated an issue due to the ceiling.

What should a person measure to determine which door unit size is actually needed?
The measuring company only measured the door opening.

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The Salesman is an idiot. Who ever installs it, will do the proper work, to make a standard sized door fit.
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The Salesman is an idiot. Who ever installs it, will do the proper work, to make a standard sized door fit.
Please explain further, what is the salesmen unaware of, & what is the salesmen missing?

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It looks like you can remove some of the framing above the door to accommodate a taller door. It looks like it's just blocking that was added when the wall was built.

The problem is with a taller door, the top trim will intersect with the grid for the ceiling. The challenge will be making it aesthetically pleasing when it's all done.
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Please explain further, what is the salesmen unaware of, & what is the salesmen missing?

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Almost all of them have never worked in the trades. They just know how to sell stuff and use scare tactics, to raise their commission on the sale. I only deal with owners of mom & pop companies in my area. That way I know I am dealing with the person turning the wrench on my vehicles, hammering the nails to do a roof or home repairs, knows how to use a torch to do plumbing.

I had one sales person tell us when we were looking at replacing the 40 year old screen doors on our house, that there was no way to do it. It took me around two hours and I had the new storm doors hung properly. All done by myself.
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It looks like you can remove some of the framing above the door to accommodate a taller door. It looks like it's just blocking that was added when the wall was built.

The problem is with a taller door, the top trim will intersect with the grid for the ceiling. The challenge will be making it aesthetically pleasing when it's all done.
Typically, can the grid for the ceiling tile be raised & positioned above the
taller door trim?

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Still have not answered why it's even there in the first place.
Is this a single story home?
The picture looks like it's a basement.
Where's the insulation in the ceiling?

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