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Old 08-08-2014, 05:58 PM   #1
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Hi Everyone! New here. I am trying to figure out if something like this can be done with a router, or if I need to invest in a shaper.

These will be drawer fronts for a built-in closet.

I was thinking of getting this set, but it requires a shaper:
Grizzly C2179 6 pc. Stile & Rail Set - Roman Ogee, 1-1/4" Bore

Is it overkill? I like the diameter of the cutter. All the router bits I've seen are much smaller.

Would love to hear your thoughts.
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for that exact style yes you do need a shaper table. a router can only handle so large of a profiled bit before it bogs down. you can make the mortise and tenon no problem on a router table or a table saw.

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Kirk, I have that rail and stile set of bits and I run them on my router table easily. Even with my M12V Hitachi 3 1/4 hp router I have to make multiple passes, it will not cut that deep of a profile in one pass. Honestly, I am afraid of a shaper powerful enough to make that profile in one pass, I had one and sold it.
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Jim, how are you attaching the cutters to your router? I have Porter-Cable 7518 3-1/4 HP Speedmatic, so it should be similar to yours. The collet is 1/2". The cutters are available for 1-1/4" bore only. Is there some sort of shank adapter to connect the two?
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I just went back and reread your post, I told you and Kirk wrong. I did not see that you have shaper cutters. Kirk was right, you will have to have a shaper to use those cutters. The ones I have are that profile but they are router bits not shaper cutters. I am sorry that I misread your post and gave you wrong information.
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you can cut similar profiles with a router and bits.
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That second pic is a raised panel drawer front, and you can make it with a router in a table, I have the same router that BigJim has and do it all the time, here's a link for buying the cutters.

http://www.eagleamerica.com/?S=GOOGL...FQpo5QodHDn6ng
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For all the effort that goes into make drawer and cabinet fronts....I just buy them.

It is not worth my time or money to do it myself. I've done it....but it's a lot of work.

On average, I can buy a drawer front for about $20. And that is in a good stain grade wood. When you consider it takes me 1-2 hours to make one....not worth the time.

The exception is if it's a solid drawer front. Those are easy.
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I agree with ddawg, but if you really want to do this yourself, you might want to look at a horizontal router attachment.
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On average, I can buy a drawer front for about $20. And that is in a good stain grade wood. When you consider it takes me 1-2 hours to make one....not worth the time.

The exception is if it's a solid drawer front. Those are easy.
I have actually considered ordering these, but when I priced it out, the cheapest I found was $57.95 each, and this is for paint grade MDF. I also found out that a lot of places won't work with larger dimensions (I need 30.5" x 12" by 3/4").

Where are you getting yours done? $20 is a great deal.
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...you might want to look at a horizontal router attachment.
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Hi Everyone! New here. I am trying to figure out if something like this can be done with a router, or if I need to invest in a shaper.

These will be drawer fronts for a built-in closet.

I was thinking of getting this set, but it requires a shaper:
Grizzly C2179 6 pc. Stile & Rail Set - Roman Ogee, 1-1/4" Bore

Is it overkill? I like the diameter of the cutter. All the router bits I've seen are much smaller.

Would love to hear your thoughts.
look like you can do all the cuts with a router and table , you may have to take smaller cut's for the profiles ect, i have made door's with rail and stiles with my router, i have 5 router's and 3 table's , i have been doing router stuff for yrs, you can do lot's with them, also been in wood working for 60 yrs, just a little info i used to have a shapper also , but got rid of it, you can do more with router's and tables, now the shapper has a place but not in my shop, lot's of things you can't do with shapper , so it depends on the person's skill's and how safe you want to work, my 2 cents
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I have actually considered ordering these, but when I priced it out, the cheapest I found was $57.95 each, and this is for paint grade MDF. I also found out that a lot of places won't work with larger dimensions (I need 30.5" x 12" by 3/4").

Where are you getting yours done? $20 is a great deal.


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I agree with CW1, a drawer front that size, $20 won't touch, you will probably come out way ahead making them yourself. What kind of wood are you looking at? If you are planning on MDF just know that stuff will dull a set of cutters and quick, and it is very very dusty, hate that stuff. Poplar is a good choice if you are going to paint. JMHO
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Poplar is a good choice if you are going to paint. JMHO
Poplar is what I was thinking, since I'll be painting it. The cabinets themselves are MDF with maple face frames. Drawers are lauan plywood.

I am thinking simple slab drawers for the two top ones. They are 30.5" x 6.25". For the four larger ones, I was thinking Revere style, as posted above, but am now rethinking it as I cannot seem to find the right router bits.
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