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Old 12-01-2011, 08:57 PM   #31
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Run the posts all the way to the ceiling and it'll take out all the lateral sway.
What ceiling? Oh wait, your thinking cuz I said its up to storage? I have a carport off the side of my garage and these stairs go from the side of the carport into the middle of my yard. I'm talking about concreting posts 30" or so into the ground (like a fence post) and up to railing height for the stairs. Should take out all lateral sway and bounce and make very secure rails

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What ceiling? Oh wait, your thinking cuz I said its up to storage? I have a carport off the side of my garage and these stairs go from the side of the carport into the middle of my yard. I'm talking about concreting posts 30" or so into the ground (like a fence post) and up to railing height for the stairs. Should take out all lateral sway and bounce and make very secure rails
Oh, I gotcha. Yeah, you should be fine the way you're doing it. By the time you have the railing up everything will stiffen up.
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If it doesn't, just add an "X" brace to the two 4x4's. (Keep the bottoms of the "X" high enough that you can run a lawnmower past them.)
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I'm getting some conflicting information, what is the acceptable range for a stairway handrail? One person told me 36-38 and one person told me 38-42. Isn't 38-42 the height of a guard rail up on the deck, not on the stairs?
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I'm getting some conflicting information, what is the acceptable range for a stairway handrail? One person told me 36-38 and one person told me 38-42. Isn't 38-42 the height of a guard rail up on the deck, not on the stairs?
36" measured at the nose of the treads.
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This should clear things up a little; pp.17-need risers, fig. 27 max. stringer span 7'; 5"min, throat, 16'6" max. closed stringer span; pp.2- table 1; fig.31- top stringer hanger required; fig.34- post footing depth to reduce stringer span; ect. etc.
http://www.awc.org/Publications/DCA/DCA6/DCA6-09.pdf

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This should clear things up a little; pp.17-need risers, fig. 27 max. stringer span 7'; 5"min, throat, 16'6" max. closed stringer span; pp.2- table 1; fig.31- top stringer hanger required; fig.34- post footing depth to reduce stringer span; ect. etc.
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Thanks, Gary. I'm embarrassed to say I missed this. It is, after all, a deck.
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Thanks, Gary. I'm embarrassed to say I missed this. It is, after all, a deck.
Do I detect any sarcasm there?
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Do I detect any sarcasm there?
???? Not at all. I am truly embarrassed that I missed something so basic. 28 years as a GC, I should know better.
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???? Not at all. I am truly embarrassed that I missed something so basic. 28 years as a GC, I should know better.
Okay. First I thought you were serious, then I thought you were being sarcastic when you said "after all, it is a deck" (not a piano).
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Okay. First I thought you were serious, then I thought you were being sarcastic when you said "after all, it is a deck" (not a piano).
No, I meant it's a deck, and that I should know full well that decks have their own separate codes, restrictions and requirements.
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BTW, Gary is one of only a handful of people I have the utmost respect for. If he says something, you can usually take it to the bank.
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This should clear things up a little; pp.17-need risers, fig. 27 max. stringer span 7'; 5"min, throat, 16'6" max. closed stringer span; pp.2- table 1; fig.31- top stringer hanger required; fig.34- post footing depth to reduce stringer span; ect. etc.
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Looked that over, looks like I need more posts. I currently have posts centered, which is like 9' in each direction
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Is 7' span measure level or measured at a diagonal along the stair?
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You might have to shift the landing to the next higher step than I've shown, or make the landing longer. Eight treads on the bottom and eight treads on the top would work out just about right. (I was just too lazy to redo this drawing after I saw that I miscounted.)

Don't forget you can make a 90 degree turn in the stairs at the landing to use up less yard space. Or even a 180 degree switch back if you want.
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