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Old 08-29-2012, 08:09 PM   #16
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Never built a tract home in my life. Everything is custom. Skill saw stays at sheet pile, router and guns at the walls.

Unless you frame your windows crooked or put all your wane the wrong way, how could a router cut crooked?

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Old 08-29-2012, 08:14 PM   #17
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Never built a tract home in my life. Everything is custom. Skill saw stays at sheet pile, router and guns at the walls.

Unless you frame your windows crooked or put all your wane the wrong way, how could a router cut crooked?
Well lets see, first you need to plunge it in somewhere, so theres that, then sometimes a piece of lumber could have a chewed up edge that the bit follows, but of course not your lumber. Just because you do things your way does not make it better or faster than the 90% that do it the other way. I have tried it your way. Have you tried it my way? You say your circ saw is never at the wall building area? That seems ridiculous to me and the 90% as well.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:19 PM   #18
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90% of the guys around here router.

What would I need a circ saw to build a wall? It stays with the sheets. Like I said everything is cut ahead of time.

I have tried your way. Did it that way the first 5 years I framed. Got my Hands on a router and never looked back.

And as for as plunging the router, you gap sheets, correct? So you can easily see where to plunge and not **** up the studs or sheet.
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Many custom builders I know have the saw at the house most of the time and a little at the cut pile.

There are different 'systems' the one that seems to work the best is the one that you are used to.
For me I cut very little sheet goods from the pile, (my first boss did however) I am more apt to put it in place and cut it there.
In the case of a wall and say you need 2 feet, I nail it on then snap a line. or follow line on the OSb and cut it in place. Although there are times when it is more prudent to cut before putting it on.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:24 PM   #20
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90% of the guys around here router.

What would I need a circ saw to build a wall? It stays with the sheets. Like I said everything is cut ahead of time.

I have tried your way. Did it that way the first 5 years I framed. Got my Hands on a router and never looked back.

And as for as plunging the router, you gap sheets, correct? So you can easily see where to plunge and not **** up the studs or sheet.
Hows that router working out for the radius tops, ovals, etc? Or is all that precut as well?
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:28 PM   #21
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Saw-zaw! who wants all that dust of a router or circular saw? Nice glue dust to make you all itchy in the hot sun lol

Long blade will follow along the 2x4 nicely!
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:29 PM   #22
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Hah! You got me there. I haven't actually had a radius'd window in a while, forgot about them.

Either way, I don't understand how you can think having to measure your windows out, snap all lines and then circ saw the window out as opposed to just plunge and go, can be any faster. I mean the actual time to router a window compared to just the cutting is pretty close to the same.
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Hah! You got me there. I haven't actually had a radius'd window in a while, forgot about them.

Either way, I don't understand how you can think having to measure your windows out, snap all lines and then circ saw the window out as opposed to just plunge and go, can be any faster. I mean the actual time to router a window compared to just the cutting is pretty close to the same.
Pretty much every frame we do has a radius or two. I really don't snap out too many lines. I extend my tape over and drag a pencil along the edge. Like I said, my saw is already right there. If yours isn't, I can see how maybe you would rather use the router. I work with a crew of 5 generally so a lot of tools come out each day. Having another out with only a single purpose makes me mental. Trusting guys to not ruin $10 bits each day is also a factor. Not trying to bust your chops here, I just do what has worked out best for me.
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And I understand that. I usually have. 3 man crew going, 1 guy cutting, 1 building, and 1 laying out or picking up the slack wherever needs be. Works good for me, guess not for everyone.

Don't mean to give you a hard time either... I've had this same argument with other guys before!
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I like to cut the holes with the wall on the floor as it is ready to be stood, use the beat up skil saw and over cut the line onto the stud a little bit so that the sawz all is not needed later to trim the sheathing sticking in the opening. the beat up skil saw with an used saw blade on it works because sometimes there will be nails at the edge of the opening, safety glasses are a must! either that or cut the holes out with the sawz all later from the inside with a long enough blade to not have to angle the cut to much...
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In the day of nail guns are you guys still sheathing walls down? We did it when we had to hand nail everything but ditched it when we saw we could sheath a wall standing up just as fast and we didnt have to lift 500 pound walls anymore lol
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^ depends on the size of the wall and if it is the third story etc... less need for walkboards and scaffolding when sheathed on the floor... plus sheathing on the floor helps get the wall in rack.
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Third floor i agree, but most third floors (when there is a third floor) are usually panels anyway around here. On second floor I use one guy pushing sheets up a ladder and one guy hanging out the wall with a nail gun. Then before we set roof one guy will run around the tops of the sheets with a nail gun, while one is cutting window holes. Itsa nice way to keep everyone busy so the roof can get planned.
Plus the foundation flattness is alittle to be desired lately and just got sick filling gaps and having settlement issues.

But thats just how we found works and gets best product for us. Many ways to skin a cat as they say.
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^ I know what you mean, a racked wall means nothing if the foundation is not level...
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Amen to that^^^ Oh how easy framing would be with a perfect flat foundation and perfect straight lumber lol

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