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Old 11-14-2011, 12:52 PM   #1
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As you may have seen from my previous post (or possibly from my project thread), I'm preparing the ceiling of the main room as you enter my house. I have the framework design, the mounting, and even the price/stock logistics figured out. I'm hung up on the layout for the room! HELP!

Take a look at the area I'm talking about and allow me to give you a little background to get us started.

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Note that there's no clearly defined use for this room. What we consider the living room (a well-done garage conversion) is just "south" and recessed about 16", with two stairs and a wood banister separating the two areas. Otherwise, traditional hardwoods are in every other room, excepting the kitchen and bath. For reference, the "project area" cross-hatched here measures 16'8" x 13'10".

Initially we had used it as a very large entry with the dining room table just below the kitchen (seats four), planning for bistro-style seating along the south rail. Lately, we added the table's leaves and moved it to the south end of the project area (seats eight).

Pictures may help more than any description I can give.

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There's a few things that cannot be easily changed. For one, the ceiling texture is quite unique. I doubt I could replicate/repair it. Thus, it would be very difficult to move the existing 4 can lights. I'd personally love to just throw beadboard over it, but it has grown on the wife over time. The other is that we want to keep a ceiling fan in the current location, possibly replacing it with a larger model down the road (currently 52").

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So far, I've probably laid out 20 different designs. However, I'm not very artistic. Have a look. I'd love some feedback or recommendations. Note that the typical square 4'x4'ish coffers don't seem to work at all with the current lighting layout, falling directly onto the beams.

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Layout #1 - This one requires lighting to be moved and paneling installed. The coffers are on the small size, with the triangles about 2'4" and the rectangles at bottom center 3'9" x 1'10".

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Layout #2 - This time we're looking at a panel size of up to 7'8" x 6'1", less fan area. Seems plain, but the opposite end of the clutter spectrum from #1. No paneling or light movement needed.

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Layout #3 - So far probably my favorite, if a bit awkward looking on paper. It lines up well with the hallway to the north. Right-center is 4'2" x 5'1" (plus "fang"), top-left is 3'3" x 5'5".

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Wife pointed out that I hadn't accounted for the air registers. And guess what, one falls right in the center of a beam for layout #3.

Here's a fourth layout we both seem to like.

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I personally like the first. However since you mentioned it interferes with lighting. I would have to say that I would personally go with the third down.
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The lights are easily (relatively speaking) moved to a different space; only drywall.
If you didn't flush mount the fan then you could maintain the square design throughout; the octagon and other ones will make it a bit more complicated IMO.
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If only it were only drywall. It's two layers of some sort of quartz-like texture troweled on. Nobody seems to have a clue what it is at either big box, Ace, Meeks or Sherwin.
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If those are 8 ft. Ceilings, I would think that putting a coffered ceiling in would make low ceilings look even lower. Just my opinion.
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Try this one It is simple but works. This is in a 9' ceiling situation
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Try this one It is simple but works. This is in a 9' ceiling situation
I think you need the lighter trim in that room to lighten it up.
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Try this one It is simple but works. This is in a 9' ceiling situation
Wow! I love it. Is that solid tongue and groove bead wainscoting, stained to match? Or is that brown painted bead board panel? Either way, I love it!

What size are the paneled areas, or what is the width of the room?
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I was at the big box the other day and wanted to get the materials for this project. But I chickened out. I didn't know exactly how much of each type of material I'd need, let alone be foolish enough to think it would all fit in my 4-door, so I just grabbed more base and crown to finish off other rooms first.

Since then I've been working on nailing down exact quantities of materials and a cut list. Hopefully it works out.
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Try this one It is simple but works. This is in a 9' ceiling situation
You could change the effect quite a lot by using trim with a shallower profile, or less contrasting colors. Also, smaller or larger grids depending on the size of the room
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This was simple beadboard, stain grade. The moldings are simple crown although 5" you could go smaller. The room was roughly 35 x 15. I would go for it. You don't need the medallion in the room, use those when you have a higher ceiling. Use 1 x 5 pine, create the boxes and paint the center panels a contrasting color. Go for it. Buy the material and put it up. You can't go wrong.
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I see! I was looking at using 1x4 for a depth of 3" on the coffers, flush at the bottom (so no reveal), then a 3-5/8" crown (3-1/8" high x 2" wide when hung, IIRC). I may finish the bottom off with two pieces of "victorian" or "hollywood" casing butted to each other.

Think I'm going to want a CO2 nailer before I start hanging all of this. While I keep an eye out for one, think I'll work on my bookcase. :\
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Looking forward to seeing how it comes out. Good luck.

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