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csmonte 06-04-2013 10:17 AM

Can you Do this? pictures/ on a deck...
 
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To start: this is NOT my deck, its a neighbors I was looking under, I immediately see other things done wrong but try to stick to that post :)

I have a post that is similar to this hitting my joist and I'm going to add a pergola, my plan was to buy 16' support posts run them through the deck, and up another 8' for my railing and then pergola support. This only happened in one spot.

My posts are notched and my outside board is (2) 2x10's, so mine would have a 3" notch while it goes through the deck.

Questions:
Is this legal?
Should I consider it? (mine will be notched posts like most decks without a beam and cantilever)

Or should I just have my support post be only support post for the deck and have it notch into the deck a few inches, then start a new 8' 6x6 above that being notched down 6-8" and bolted for my railing and pergola support?

thanks, for the help, trying to get this figured out so I can order some wood.

Willie T 06-04-2013 11:49 AM

Shouldn't be done that way.

joed 06-04-2013 01:55 PM

The hanger doesn't even look like it is up tight to the bottom of the joist.

GBrackins 06-04-2013 04:15 PM

I'd be more concerned about what is keeping the guard post from acting like a lever and pulling the rim joist off the ends of the joists ......

robertcdf 06-04-2013 06:27 PM

The bearing point is back at the beam... That hanger is not really doing anything.

GBrackins 06-04-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmonte (Post 1195004)


Questions:
Is this legal?
Should I consider it? (mine will be notched posts like most decks without a beam and cantilever)

Or should I just have my support post be only support post for the deck and have it notch into the deck a few inches, then start a new 8' 6x6 above that being notched down 6-8" and bolted for my railing and pergola support?

thanks, for the help, trying to get this figured out so I can order some wood.


I would highly recommend your downloading and reading the American Wood Council's "Prescriptive Residential Wood Deck Construction Guide," which is based upon the 2009 International Residential Code. This code may or may not apply to your local jurisdiction.

This guide was written due to the many deck collapses that have occurred over the past few years, and the injuries and deaths they caused.

This will indicate that notching of guard posts is not allowed based upon the required 200 lbs point load anywhere along the guard.

Again, your area may allow notching of guards, then again it may not. I would inquire with my local building department for guidance.

post back with any questions, good luck!

woodworkbykirk 06-04-2013 08:30 PM

whats even keeping that post locked into place. every time i set posts for a handrail i install blocking around it so it ties it to the joists on either side and greately reduces any chance of movement.. maybe then you could run a joist into it

csmonte 06-04-2013 09:11 PM

thanks for the link. Everything seems good except for a few things on my end.

Seems I should Triple my "trimmer" joist. ...I can add that in still.

And NO NOTCHING on guard posts..? that's kind of a biggie.

It seems that 90% of decks in my area, even put up this year by companies, have notched guard posts. Most use the support post as the guard post with a 1.5"-3" notch and 2 bolts.

Hmmm, any opinions on this anyone?
I planned on this post going even farther and supplying as my pergola support.

thanks

mknasa dad 06-15-2013 09:50 PM

Can you do this??? Absolutely, you can!!! Look at the pics. It already has been proven it can be done.

Should it??? That is a completely different answer!!


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