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Old 08-15-2011, 10:56 AM   #1
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Can i stud new ceiling without demo of old plaster ceiling.


I have a drop ceiling in my bathroom that I would like to remove but I don't want to rip the old plaster ceiling apart if I don't have to. Can I just stud out a new ceiling under the old and insulate it ?

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I have a drop ceiling in my bathroom that I would like to remove but I don't want to rip the old plaster ceiling apart if I don't have to. Can I just stud out a new ceiling under the old and insulate it ?
Is this a second floor bath, with an attic above?
If so, why not insulate it from above.
If the plaster is structurally sound and you can't skim coat it, just install 1/4" sheetrock on top.
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I'm trying to avoid the mess of removing the old plaster and blown in insulation above it. Right now I have a drop ceiling with wiring and duct work above it. None of this requires access. I just don't like the look of drop ceilings and would rather frame a new ceiling and sheet rock at the same height. The bathroom is small roughly 8•7.
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how high is the plaster ceiling and what would the finished height be of the new ceiling? You can always frame a new ceiling in; question is will it be livable and/or meet building code for habitation and resale?
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Existing plaster ceiling is 9' drop ceiling is 8'. I wouldn't be any lower than the drop ceiling.
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I would just add the framing and new drywall but don't add insulation as there is undoubtedly a vapor barrier and insulation in the attic and you don't want to add insulation under the VB.

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There is no vapor barrier ,just plaster ,wood lath , the blown in cellulose insulation. Do I just attach ceiling to walls or do I need to tie into existing ceiling for support?
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That would depend on the span, but I don't imagine its very much as it is a bathroom.

I would nail or screw a stringer to the walls and then joists to the stringer, just make sure you are screwing into wall studs.

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I left my rock-lathe up for my ceiling, but ripped all the walls down, when I redid my bath. Just went over where the seams were, with a couple of skim coats. Came out looking like a new ceiling. Now of course with our Kitchen dining and living room areas, we have come to the decision to lay 1/4" gypsum glued and screwed to hide the seams, because it would take too much work to fix, especially in the Kitchen area, where they did not put any sand paint on the ceiling to hide the imperfections.
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That would depend on the span, but I don't imagine its very much as it is a bathroom.

I would nail or screw a stringer to the walls and then joists to the stringer, just make sure you are screwing into wall studs.

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Span is no more than 7' what size stringer? 2•4 or 2•6? and would you use joist hangers or just nail to the stringer?
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2 x 4 framing is all it needs nails would be fine

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Thanks for your help
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You are so very welcome, you should post some before during and after pics, we all love to look at the projects accomplished.

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I would screw a perimeter frame to the wall studs and attach the ceiling joists to the frame.

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