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mystic_cobra 11-29-2011 10:14 PM

Cabinet, Fridge, & Pantry fitment
 
I'm finally installing my cabinets and it's going well so far. I am now trying to install the over fridge cabinet and pantry. I'm planning to screw them together first and then attach them to the wall. I'm trying to figure out if I need two spacers or just one.

2 spacers:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6...9223112.th.jpg
Left spacer is not stained (for mock-up), right spacer is stained. Both are 3/4".

1 spacer (right side only):
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/2...9225917.th.jpg

I'd prefer to use just one spacer and have less gap but it does allow the right fridge door to touch the edge of the cabinet door when fully (99%) open. This annoys the wife.

I can't do without the right side spacer because the doors will hit before they open all the way (contact when about 70% open).

With one spacer and the planned base cabinet layout, I get nearly 1.5" granite overhang from the end of the last cabinet to the end of the 42" half wall. Perfect. If I go with both spacers I have to cut that overhang to about 3/4" OR I'll have to reduce one base cabinet by a size (not a major problem since I haven't paid for that one yet) and add a small spacer elsewhere to account for 2 inches or so to get the standard overhang back.

The other problem introduced by using just one spacer is that the top (36") cabinet isn't really wide enough to span the width of the fridge (35.75") plus the gap created between the wall and the fridge which is about 1/8" at the floor and nearly 1/2" at the top of the fridge. I've tried levelling the fridge more but the more I close that gap, the more unlevel the fridge seems to get. I haven't figured out why yet.

I have a couple closeup pics that I'll add below.

thanks,
Jimmy

mystic_cobra 11-29-2011 10:36 PM

2 spacers right side:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/273...9223140.th.jpg

2 spacers left side:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/820...9223125.th.jpg

1 spacer:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/856...9225931.th.jpg
Note the small gap left of the cabinet when one spacer is used.

Ignore the light above the cabinet. It is being relocated slightly.

Ron6519 11-30-2011 09:11 AM

The spacer situation on top has nothing to do with the refrigerator doors opening one way or the other.
There should have been more space given the refrigerator or the wall on the left side opened wider to leave space for the doors to open.
You might need to pull the refrigerator out a bit to clear the cabinet face with the doors open.
Or... open the wall to behind the doors of the unit.

Big Stud 11-30-2011 10:13 AM

Better make the wife happy. I don't know about you, but around here, if momma ain't happy, no one is gonna be happy. :wink:

TheCamper 11-30-2011 06:53 PM

Where you place the filler(s) is a matter of personal preference, I always used one filler against the wall and kept the cabinets tight to one another. Refrigerator doors typically turn in their own radius, however when they do not open greater than 90 degrees the draws often do not pull out as the shelves in the doors interfere with the draws. For that reason you may need the refrigerator door at the opening of the passthrough. Leveling refrigerators can be a bit bothersome if you can not adjust the rear wheels, but do whatever you need to level it, e.g cedar shakes under the rear wheels if not adjustable. I would go for a level and plumb fridge and skip the concern about the space to the wall. If the cabinets are plumb and the referigerator is plumb, then if you make the fridge parallel to the out of plumb wall the space to the cabinets will be off. No one will notice the uneven space to the wall in a few weeks.

Ron6519 11-30-2011 09:39 PM

Just saw the spacer next to the refrigerator. There's no reason to have one there. Cut it off at the bottom of the upper cabinet if you want to open the doors all the way.

mystic_cobra 12-01-2011 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 782841)
Just saw the spacer next to the refrigerator. There's no reason to have one there. Cut it off at the bottom of the upper cabinet if you want to open the doors all the way.

I see what you guys are saying and appreciate the advice. The doors open out and don't hit one another with it situated as is. I shimmed the pantry and fridge so they are level/plumb and it fits better.

As for the suggestion to cut the spacer off at the upper cabinet...I can do that but like the look of having that spacer run all the way down because it fills that gap.

What is a typical gap on the sides of the fridge? With that one spacer I have about a quarter inch on each side of the fridge. If I cut off that spacer my gap will grow to about 5/8 - 3/4" on each side.

I think the old gap was about 2.5" so anything is probably better than what I had in the crappy old kitchen. :)

Ron6519 12-02-2011 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mystic_cobra (Post 783752)
What is a typical gap on the sides of the fridge? With that one spacer I have about a quarter inch on each side of the fridge. If I cut off that spacer my gap will grow to about 5/8 - 3/4" on each side.

I think the old gap was about 2.5" so anything is probably better than what I had in the crappy old kitchen. :)

Refrigerators have recommended spacing on the sides and back for ventilation. My Kenmore Elite recommends 2" per side and 2" on the back.
You should check your refrigerator's specifications.

bareshiyth 01-17-2012 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Stud (Post 782207)
Better make the wife happy. I don't know about you, but around here, if momma ain't happy, no one is gonna be happy. :wink:

You mean the wife will ***** (even notice?) if the fridge is out an inch or two?
put a 1x2 on the floor so it feels like the fridge is back against the wall :whistling2:


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