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Vadim 11-23-2011 10:45 AM

Cabinet crown molding
 
Hello,
I would like to install crown molding on new kitchen cabinets.
From the top of the cabinet to the ceiling is 9.5" that I would like to cover because one section has a horizontal exhaust duct along the wall and I would like to cover it. I plan to install a nailer board on top of each cabinet to attach a finished vertical board. That attach the bottom of 4.5" crown molding to the board and the top to the ceiling. There are no ceiling joists in the area that I can nail the molding to.
Any idea how to attach the molding to the ceiling?

Thank's.

firehawkmph 11-23-2011 04:33 PM

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Vadim,
If you install a nailer to the top of the cabinets to attach your 9" vertical piece to, you should have a nailer on the ceiling (2x2) to attach the top of your 9" filler piece. If the joists are running parallel, I would use a toggle bolt about every 2' to fasten the 2 x 2 to the ceiling. Once you attach your vertical filler, fasten the crown to it. You won't need to fasten the crown to the ceiling. The only thing I would caution against this whole thing is, if you have standard height wall cabinets (30"), the addition of 9" of filler and crown will look very out of scale to the cabinet. Cabinet manufacturers are making 36 and 39" cabinets to allow for a 3-4" tall crown to hit up against the ceiling.
Here's a pic of a kitchen with 36" tall cabinets and a total of 6" of filler and crown. It's ok, but I'm not crazy about it. Add three more inches of filler and I think you'll see what I mean.
Mike Hawkins:)

woodworkbykirk 11-23-2011 07:02 PM

you don't really need a nailer there. you can get away with stitch nailing the crown to the ceiling along with adding a bead of glue on the back of the crown.. this is done all the time for crown installs in places with steel stud framing

Vadim 11-25-2011 10:39 PM

cabinet crown molding
 
Thank you guys for very good suggestions. I may try both and see what happens. The toggle bolt idea is more complicated but reliable.
Mike, I agree with you about the out of scale width of the molding. The cabinets are 30" high and one portion has an exhaust duct pipe running above cabinets.
So, we wanted to close it by installing wider molding. We did consider to buy taller cabinets and run the duct thru them, but it was more expensive and may require more work.

firehawkmph 11-26-2011 07:48 PM

Vadim,
Maybe you could do something with some small decorative molding to break up the flat filler piece. Or maybe adding another flat piece of molding with an edge detail, stacking it on the first filler in a step fashion. So you break up the flat expanse in half and have a 3/4" jog where they meet. Then the crown would attach to the second piece, if you follow what I mean.
Mike Hawkins:)

coupe 11-26-2011 08:10 PM

if the cieling is drywall? you can use a 25 gauge metal stud screwed into the cieling, held back to be plumb when the finishes board is atached run a good heavy bead of silicone on the stud before screweing to cieling screw it up with screws running at angles, will hold solid back and forth and up and down. can also screw one down to top of cabinets held back to depth of filler strip. attach filler strip with finish screws. you're good togo

coupe

titanoman 11-26-2011 09:31 PM

Go into your attic and install blocking between the joists if possible. If there is a floor upstairs, put blocks in from below through holes that you can make above the cabinets in the ceiling, as this will hide with your 1x filler.


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