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Scottg 09-21-2013 08:54 AM

Building Carcasses - Attaching Center Panels
 
I'm curious as to how you all attach center panels when building carcasses.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about... Here's a clipped image from a Lowes video on constructing an entertainment center. In this case, the guy is using some blocks and clamps to set up an internal 'box' of shelves, which he'll later attach to the base, and eventually throw the top on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZLVBT845wc
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...chPanels-1.jpg

But what about when there's no box in the center that's going to be assembled? What if it's just a partition or two? What I've done in the past is one of two things... either put the ends on both sides first and then do any center parts; so there's pressure in the center. (Would still needs some clamps, but it's easier.) In other cases, I've done whatever weird configuration with clamps, etc.

It just seems kind of a hassle. When using pocket hole screws, the special clamp for pocket holes works ok, but not great. I suppose if using dowels, that would be pretty obvious.

Just wondering how you all handle this.

Thanks,
Scott

oh'mike 09-21-2013 09:16 AM

Are you talking about making a face frame with a center divider for the door?

Scottg 09-21-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1244557)
Are you talking about making a face frame with a center divider for the door?

I suppose so. That is, dividers don't have to be for doors. It could be there's no doors at all. Just some dividers with some shelf pin holes.

Face frames are pretty easy. Almost regardless of the joinery method used, you can lay them flat on your work surface and use a variety of clamps, (from regular to right angle to webs that surround the whole thing), to connect them.

But for a larger carcass... sure, clamps can work. But it can be a hassle to get everything lined up exactly right and then clamp. Especially if you put down some glue first. If you happen to be using dowels or biscuits, ok; maybe not so hard. But for pocket hole screws, framing nails or just plane screws through the bottom, it's just seems like there's got to be an easier way than what I'm doing. Which can be using blocks or weights or whatever to hold up a "Bottom" piece and maybe similar for a divider, then a clamp.

Looking for more videos, but most seem to just kind of skip that part.

oh'mike 09-21-2013 10:06 PM

Got you---how you do that will depend on the tools you have----I often cut a rabbit with a dado blade--but you need a big table saw for that---

Other times the rabbit is cut with a route----

For less fancy cabinetry---I might cut a scrap piece of ply as a spacer and position the divider and simply nail it.

Do to have a picture of the type of divider ? Do you have a table saw?

Jay123 09-21-2013 10:11 PM

Dadoes...if I'm understanding you correctly.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Dado...px%3B300%3B208

Done with a router and straight-edge guide, in my case(s).

oh'mike 09-21-2013 10:39 PM

Brain fart----:laughing:

Jay123 09-21-2013 10:44 PM

I have 'em all the time Mike...and blame 'em on the dog. http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...s/b95fd976.gif

Jay123 09-21-2013 10:49 PM

The dogs blame me for the other end ones. :whistling2:

Scottg 09-22-2013 07:50 PM

I don't have a table saw yet. It's my next purchase. Struggling mightily with the options, though have it narrowed down to three of the portable types.

It seems people just do whatever they want and there's no best practice here.

I like the dado idea. In the past, I've used my Dewalt 618 Router to make dados for shelves. One way I've found to do this and make sure things line up has been to clamp the opposing pieces together edge-wise. (As if you were going to join them.) Then use a straight edge as a fence for the router and put the dado through both at once. This way, there's zero concern about measuring exactly. I've mostly done this to place shelves, but should work just as easily for dividers.

I kind of like the idea of using biscuits or similar though. Not sure why... maybe to have cleaner edges. (Though for dados I suppose I could use the plunge method to start an inch in stop the dados short of edge.)

Seems like everyone's got their favorite.

oh'mike 09-22-2013 10:18 PM

You have to use the best method that your tools and time allow----


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