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Old 10-29-2009, 07:58 PM   #1
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Blum hinges from 15 years ago??


We installed Kraftmaid cabinets in our kitchen 15-17 years ago. These cabinets use Blum face frame hinges in an antique bronze color, similar in design to Blum's current Compact 33 hinge but with two important differences.
  1. Our original hinges had the hinge cup mounting screws located on the butt side of the hinge cup's centerline. Current Model 33's have the mounting screws located outboard of the centerline. This means I will have to drill new mounting screws in the cabinet door.
  2. Current model Blum hinges apparently come in only silver color, no matching antique bronze color.
Unfortunately, I have had two hinges fail in the past year. Swapping them with hinges on seldom used doors is only a temporary soluiton. I would like to replace the failed hinges with Blum models identical to our existing hinges. Matching color is the most important issue.

Are the old style Blum hinges still available somewhere? Are current model Blum hinges available in the bronze color?

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Old 10-29-2009, 08:34 PM   #2
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We installed Kraftmaid cabinets in our kitchen 15-17 years ago. These cabinets use Blum face frame hinges in an antique bronze color, similar in design to Blum's current Compact 33 hinge but with two important differences.
  1. Our original hinges had the hinge cup mounting screws located on the butt side of the hinge cup's centerline. Current Model 33's have the mounting screws located outboard of the centerline. This means I will have to drill new mounting screws in the cabinet door.
  2. Current model Blum hinges apparently come in only silver color, no matching antique bronze color.
Unfortunately, I have had two hinges fail in the past year. Swapping them with hinges on seldom used doors is only a temporary soluiton. I would like to replace the failed hinges with Blum models identical to our existing hinges. Matching color is the most important issue.

Are the old style Blum hinges still available somewhere? Are current model Blum hinges available in the bronze color?

Have you tried their website? http://www.blum.com/us/en/01/60/index.php
If you can't find your product, click on the CONTACT US link and give them a call.

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:57 PM   #3
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  1. The old style hinge is no longer available. Luckily the new style, Compact 33, will fit with only two small (#8) screw holes visible on the inside of the cabinet door. These can be filled with tinted putty.
  2. The new hinges are available in Nickel Plate finish only.
  3. The old style of mounting plate, wrap around style, has been recently discontinued! the new style of mounting plate attaches differently and will leave large visible holes in the cabinet frame.
Fate was on my side tonight and I located an internet retailer who has enough of the old style wrap around mounting plates, of correct overlap measurement, to provide me with new mounting plates in the Nickel Plate finish to replace all the hinges.

Now I will have new hinges mounted on new mounting plates, both pieces the same color, and both pieces using the same mounting holes. Well, almost the same mounting holes for the hinges.

Guess this is the best I could hope for.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:28 PM   #4
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  1. The old style hinge is no longer available. Luckily the new style, Compact 33, will fit with only two small (#8) screw holes visible on the inside of the cabinet door. These can be filled with tinted putty.
  2. The new hinges are available in Nickel Plate finish only.
  3. The old style of mounting plate, wrap around style, has been recently discontinued! the new style of mounting plate attaches differently and will leave large visible holes in the cabinet frame.
Fate was on my side tonight and I located an internet retailer who has enough of the old style wrap around mounting plates, of correct overlap measurement, to provide me with new mounting plates in the Nickel Plate finish to replace all the hinges.

Now I will have new hinges mounted on new mounting plates, both pieces the same color, and both pieces using the same mounting holes. Well, almost the same mounting holes for the hinges.

Guess this is the best I could hope for.
Buy extras now, if others break you can bet he'll have sold out.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:29 PM   #5
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Buy extras now, if others break you can bet he'll have sold out.
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I need 34, I ordered 36, and I have two that Kraft-Maid sent me for free. Plus, I can save a few of the old ones for future use in inconspicuous locations . Since the originals lasted 15+ years I should be OK until it is time to sell the house or replace the cabinets.
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Hello, can someone please tell me what type of hinge this is, it has 2 holes at the top to put screws in and 2 holes on the side, it is a rectangler shape and has 3 sides.
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I need 34, I ordered 36, and I have two that Kraft-Maid sent me for free. Plus, I can save a few of the old ones for future use in inconspicuous locations . Since the originals lasted 15+ years I should be OK until it is time to sell the house or replace the cabinets.
MI-Roger - Can you tell me where online you found these? I just need 1 nickel plated, but I can't find them anywhere. I can only find the new version.

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MI-Roger - Can you tell me where online you found these? I just need 1 nickel plated, but I can't find them anywhere. I can only find the new version.

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I could not find the old style hinge either. The hinges I bought are the new style which require two new holes to be drilled in the cabinet door. My success was in finding some of the old style wrap-around mounts which attach to the cabinet frame.

I'll have to look at the packing slip tonight to see where I bought the hinges and mounts.

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I could not find the old style hinge either. The hinges I bought are the new style which require two new holes to be drilled in the cabinet door. My success was in finding some of the old style wrap-around mounts which attach to the cabinet frame.

I'll have to look at the packing slip tonight to see where I bought the hinges and mounts.
I see a ton of places online that sell the new hinge. I was hoping you found the old one I'm not excited about drilling new holes in my cabinet door, but I guess I have no choice. Did you replace all of them on the door as recommended or did you mix and match?

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I see a ton of places online that sell the new hinge. I was hoping you found the old one I'm not excited about drilling new holes in my cabinet door, but I guess I have no choice. Did you replace all of them on the door as recommended or did you mix and match?

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If these are the 35mm recessed Blum hinges, they make a version that requires no holes. It a compression fit. Just order a pair with the correct offset and you're done.
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If these are the 35mm recessed Blum hinges, they make a version that requires no holes. It a compression fit. Just order a pair with the correct offset and you're done.
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They are the "Compact 33" hinges. I've done a little research and it does look like they make a press in version. Thanks for the Info!

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If these are the 35mm recessed Blum hinges, they make a version that requires no holes. It a compression fit. Just order a pair with the correct offset and you're done.
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No, not quite.

The press-in is achieved by threading regular #8 hinge mounting screws into barbed nylon plugs. This is done at the factory so there is no added labor for the installer or cabinet maker. These plugs get "pressed-in" into larger diameter mounting holes which are pre-drilled in cabinet doors made from pressboard / particle board.

The "press-in" style will work on hard wood doors by removing the nylon barbed plugs and using the free screws to anchor the hinge in a normal manner. Worthwhile only if you find the press-in style priced cheaper than the regular style.

The hinge off-set is determined by the mounting plates, not the hinges.
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No, not quite.

The press-in is achieved by threading regular #8 hinge mounting screws into barbed nylon plugs. This is done at the factory so there is no added labor for the installer or cabinet maker. These plugs get "pressed-in" into larger diameter mounting holes which are pre-drilled in cabinet doors made from pressboard / particle board.
So are you saying that the press-in style will not fit in the existing cutout of the old style hinge when I remove it?

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No, not quite.

The press-in is achieved by threading regular #8 hinge mounting screws into barbed nylon plugs. This is done at the factory so there is no added labor for the installer or cabinet maker. These plugs get "pressed-in" into larger diameter mounting holes which are pre-drilled in cabinet doors made from pressboard / particle board.

The "press-in" style will work on hard wood doors by removing the nylon barbed plugs and using the free screws to anchor the hinge in a normal manner. Worthwhile only if you find the press-in style priced cheaper than the regular style.

The hinge off-set is determined by the mounting plates, not the hinges.
Blum has a compression hinge called the ,"Inserta" which is held in by side compression in the 35mm hole.
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So are you saying that the press-in style will not fit in the existing cutout of the old style hinge when I remove it?

Richard
The hinge will be an exact fit in the large (35mm diameter?) mortised pocket, but it will still require drilling two small holes in the door for the small hinge anchor screws.

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