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Old 06-26-2011, 06:18 PM   #1
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Blind Nailing for Decks ?


Im putting in a cedar deck for someone and they want me to use the blind nailing method. Ive used the Trex version which was pretty good but whats out there for Cedar?
Any recommendations would be appreciated.

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I don't know who makes it but I just saw a 2x6 deck installed with system
that conceals the fasteners. The owner said there is a metal strip attached
to each joist with spacers built in. You just screw through holes in the
brackets into the bottoms of the deck boards. The only place that didn't
work was when they got over to the last board...Had to face screw that one.

Sorry that I don't know a supplier.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:07 PM   #3
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something like this ?
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Are you doing this as a paying gig, or as a favor to a friend?
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I was under the impression that the project I saw had long strips with spaces and holes
but I really am not sure....I'm the door guy, not the deck guy!!

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There are a number of fastening devices for a concealed look. Do a Google search for "concealed deck fasteners".
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Are you doing this as a paying gig, or as a favor to a friend?
whats the difference?
I wouldnt want to screw over either. If theres a problem that you know or a better product please tell me.

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Thanks Ron. I did that. But as you can tell I never did anything other than the Trex one. Just looking for experienced opinions. There are a few different ones but speed plus quality would be a plus.
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Look for the deck jig from Kreg Tool.
http://www.kregtool.com/Deck-Jig-Prodview.html

They make awesome jigs for pocket hole joinery and brought the technology to deck building.
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Are you doing this as a paying gig, or as a favor to a friend?
That was my first thought.
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whats the difference?
I wouldnt want to screw over either. If theres a problem that you know or a better product please tell me.

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The difference is that this is a rather rudimentary question, which is easily handled with a modicum of research. In actuality, any professional capable of building a deck, should be able to come up with the answers to using a concealed fastener system in about five minutes at your local lumber yard.

If you are a amateur doing this as a favor, this gap of knowledge is excusable. If this is a paying gig, and you are a so-called professional, you should do your customer a favor and decline the job. You are in over your head as a deck builder.
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I'd definitely recommend the craigjig solution if you are going for the best result. It's a bit pricey but worth it!
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That KregTool one is different. Never saw that before. Depot has one where you would use a biscuit joiner with these plastic biscuits/spacers but I think I still like that first option.

No, its not a paying gig. Its a small 10X10 deck. Just want to do a good job and its not my first one but its my first one with blind nails thats not Trex. We're using 2X6 cedar.
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Try Finehomebuilding #178 at the library. Good way to start. Many use biscuit joiners, the Eb-ty system being the most well known.

I don't kthink the Kreg will work on 2X material, and it does look a little slow and fussy.

I would also think twice about 2X cedar. 1X ipe, tigerwood or other SA material would be cheaper than 2X cedar, at least at my lumber yard.

Which is about 10 miles from a cedar mill here in Washington.

So I would think that anywhere other than SW BC and western Oregon, my lumber cedar is cheap.
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Appreciate your opinion Anti but we're stuck on 2X6 cedar. Sometimes theres other things in control if you know what I mean. But if I was to order tomorrow I think we would go with the under deck screwing method. Looks solid. As far as the 2X's, I couldn't agree more. I think 5/4 would be more than enough especially since were framing at 16"O.C. but like I said, Im not calling the shots

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