Biscuits

07-05-2012, 09:15 AM	#1
senior-chief Newbie   Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5	Biscuits Question: Since I do not own a biscuit joiner, how did people insert biscuits, i.e., 2 x 6's? Hopefully my learning curve continues to grow....Thank you

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07-05-2012, 09:21 AM	#2
DangerMouse the Musigician     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 10,404	Biscuits Sorry, I don't understand your question. To use biscuits, you need a biscuit joiner tool. Then they glue in place. Pretty basic. DM __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!

07-05-2012, 09:49 AM	#3
DexterII Member   Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,545	Biscuits Depending on what you are doing, dadoes with splines or holes with dowels may be viable alternatives; otherwise, as DM said, biscuits generally require a biscuit cutter.

07-05-2012, 04:10 PM	#4
senior-chief Newbie   Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5	Biscuits Thank you too both you guys. Time to purchase a biscuit joiner---have a goodin'

07-05-2012, 06:46 PM	#5
Canarywood1 Member   Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sarasota,Florida Posts: 949	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by senior-chief Question: Since I do not own a biscuit joiner, how did people insert biscuits, i.e., 2 x 6's? Hopefully my learning curve continues to grow....Thank you You don't need a biscuit joiner,you can use a router and a slot cutter in a table

07-08-2012, 10:42 AM	#6
woody4249 Retired Cabinetmaker     Join Date: May 2012 Location: Jacksonville Beach Florida Posts: 186	Biscuits Biscuits typically are made from compressed plywood and come in different sizes. They are approximately 3/16" thick and shaped like an American football. Once glue is applied and inserted into the slot, they expand and form a tight fit. Wood dowels do the same thing and are usually 8mm in dia. These however are not so forgiving and accuracy with boring is paramount These are utilized in the cabinet industry for joining panels and are not usually considered a "joinery" method for carpenters with structural material. When joining 2x6's in a "T" joint there are three traditional ways of creating a sturdy joint. Other than a "Butt joint" it could be "Half lapped", morticed, or trenched with a "Dado" If this joint is considered a "significant structural point", additional support can be gained by use of a joist hanger, metal bracket or strapping. As a biscuit joiner has only one purpose, it may be to your advantage to purchase a router and utilize a box bit router cutter. With the use of jigs you will be able to perform the same task and have a very versatile tool for other projects. Mike __________________ "I'm not as green as I am cabbage looking"

07-08-2012, 12:04 PM	#7
Tom Struble Member     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: west milford n.j. Posts: 2,692	Biscuits get a Kreg pocket screw kit instead

07-08-2012, 12:10 PM	#8
woody4249 Retired Cabinetmaker     Join Date: May 2012 Location: Jacksonville Beach Florida Posts: 186	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by Tom Struble get a Kreg pocket screw kit instead Oh.....I forgot about that........best tool I ever bought Mike __________________ "I'm not as green as I am cabbage looking"

07-08-2012, 12:36 PM	#9
PaliBob Tool Geek     Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pacific Palisades CA Posts: 2,444	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by senior-chief .....Time to purchase a biscuit joiner.......... You've got it. Biscuits need an oval shape hole. Trying to use a router or table saw while fine for splines won't cut it for biscuits. Also biscuits are not made from plywood but usually from compressed Beech. They are made to expand to make a tight joint. That's why it's best to store them in an airtight container. Attached Images   __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & Stay Safe .....Bob Lavery

07-08-2012, 01:00 PM	#10
woody4249 Retired Cabinetmaker     Join Date: May 2012 Location: Jacksonville Beach Florida Posts: 186	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by PaliBob You've got it. Biscuits need an oval shape hole. Trying to use a router or table saw while fine for splines won't cut it for biscuits. Also biscuits are not made from plywood but usually from compressed Beech. They are made to expand to make a tight joint. That's why it's best to store them in an airtight container. I stand corrected..........I really should know better having used them a gazzillion times __________________ "I'm not as green as I am cabbage looking"

07-08-2012, 01:06 PM	#11
DangerMouse the Musigician     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 10,404	Biscuits Personally, I'm still trying to imagine using biscuits to connect two by sixes!!!! (unless someone can explain to me what a 2X6' is! " = inches, ' = feet ) DM __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!

07-09-2012, 07:24 AM	#12
PaliBob Tool Geek     Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pacific Palisades CA Posts: 2,444	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by senior-chief ....how did people insert biscuits, i.e., 2 x 6's? Festool makes a large mortise tool (The Domino XL) that evolved from the wood biscuit technology. Anybody with an extra $1250 can just get started with this Tool. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & Stay Safe .....Bob Lavery Last edited by PaliBob; 07-09-2012 at 07:40 AM. Reason: sp

07-09-2012, 03:03 PM	#13
senior-chief Newbie   Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by PaliBob Festool makes a large mortise tool (The Domino XL) that evolved from the wood biscuit technology. Anybody with an extra $1250 can just get started with this Tool. Oh man, $1250 for biscuit joiner? Send me back to Vietnam--Ha--Hell, I am a newbie and probably need more advice after all. I was thinking a used B.J--Festol is way out of the way for this old sailor--Thank you, Mike

07-09-2012, 03:14 PM	#14
DangerMouse the Musigician     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 10,404	Biscuits I know, my son and I were just looking at that too..... I spent less on our riding mower! LOL You have to admit though, if you had the need, that's a pretty sweet tool! Po) (Go Navy!) DM __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!

07-09-2012, 03:17 PM	#15
jschaben jschaben   Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Crosse, Kansas Posts: 552	Biscuits Quote: Originally Posted by senior-chief Oh man, $1250 for biscuit joiner? Send me back to Vietnam--Ha--Hell, I am a newbie and probably need more advice after all. I was thinking a used B.J--Festol is way out of the way for this old sailor--Thank you, Mike Here's a little more affordable version. http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...2&site=ROCKLER Might help, a lot, to know just what you are working on. Here is a system for using a router to put in biscuits: http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../biscuits.html Personally, I would get the router over the biscuit joiner as the router is much more versatile. That is, if you have neither. __________________ John Schaben "Where all think alike, no one is thinking very much" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.