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Mills314 12-28-2011 12:01 PM

Bar ceiling ideas
 
Hey guys, looking for some ideas in regards to a ceiling I am doing over the bar that is to be built in my basement.

Overall, the basement is going to have a drop ceiling. However in the area over the bar, which will be about 48" x 96", I would like to do something more decorative. Like a bar look, or traditional Irish public house look with timbers or wooden panels.

Has anyone seen anything like this before?

oldhouseguy 12-28-2011 12:14 PM

There are Irish bars all over the place that have done a fairly credible job of copying the real thing.

I suggest either googling them for pictures or actually going to a few and checking out what and how they have done it!

That's a fairly small ceiling area, I am not sure you should go big and bulky wood, you might want to consider a 6 inch tin ceiling design possibly painted?

You could trim it out with dark wood crown and maybe run a few faux beams across it that tie into the back of the bar?

titanoman 12-28-2011 12:33 PM

Maybe build a 2x2' grid pattern out of 1x3" oak (false beams, about 2- 1/2" x 3-1/4" total), over oak paneling on the ceiling, then an 1-1/2" crown throughout the grid.
Or use 1x6" and 3" crown for a beefier look.
This would be very impressive, albeit a little costly.
Or you could go for a rough cedar look...

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Mills314 12-28-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 805475)
Maybe build a 2x2' grid pattern out of 1x3" oak (false beams, about 2- 1/2" x 3-1/4" total), over oak paneling on the ceiling, then an 1-1/2" crown throughout the grid.
Or use 1x6" and 3" crown for a beefier look.
This would be very impressive, albeit a little costly.
Or you could go for a rough cedar look...

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I really like the idea of the "rough" look. Maybe using some reclaimed wood or something like that. Basically, I am just going to have that decorative ceiling over that area, and then the rest will be drop ceiling.

I am wondering if that will look funny or not.

Also, I am wondering if I can do anything to still make the ceiling still accessible, as i have a junction above the bar that controls all my undercabinet lighting.

titanoman 12-28-2011 01:29 PM

I don't think anything you do will look funny. The bar is it's own separate area and a change in the ceiling will further define that area.
And you should be able to hide a removable panel no matter what you do.

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Mills314 12-28-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 805525)
I don't think anything you do will look funny. The bar is it's own separate area and a change in the ceiling will further define that area.
And you should be able to hide a removable panel no matter what you do.

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Good point. I will maybe do some seperate lights over the bar area, and do a few small false beams in there, then do some crown molding around them and sort of "box" them in a do like a similar drop ceiling look, but with wood. I can use the crown and set panels on top of the crown, which can serve as my "ceiling track".

Sound about right?

titanoman 12-28-2011 04:02 PM

Yeah. Sounds good. What do you have for a bar-top?

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Mills314 12-28-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 805659)
Yeah. Sounds good. What do you have for a bar-top?

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The plan is to go with granite on the wet bar back portion. Still not sure if I am doing an actual bar portion due to space limitations. The plan is to do the back first and see if I still have room for a pool table and then go from there.

user1007 12-29-2011 11:34 AM

Many of the old tin ceiling patterns have been rescued and are available for not lots of money but a bit more than conventional ceiling materials. Some are actually replicated in foam and fibre type panels and adjusted to fit the supports of drop ceilings exactly.

Try not to go crazy with this given the small size of the space. 4x8 or just 32 square feet if I read your post correctly. If you start nailing up crown molding oversized, the space is going to look really high tacky really fast.

Mills314 12-29-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 806359)
Many of the old tin ceiling patterns have been rescued and are available for not lots of money but a bit more than conventional ceiling materials. Some are actually replicated in foam and fibre type panels and adjusted to fit the supports of drop ceilings exactly.

Try not to go crazy with this given the small size of the space. 4x8 or just 32 square feet if I read your post correctly. If you start nailing up crown molding oversized, the space is going to look really high tacky really fast.

Yeah, i don't want to go overboard with it. However I want it to pop as well. I am really liking the idea of using fake beams up there, just can't quite nail down what to put between them?

titanoman 12-29-2011 03:25 PM

Maybe some raised panels. How about some cabinet doors; build the false beams around them, accented with a small crown.

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Mills314 12-29-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 806521)
Maybe some raised panels. How about some cabinet doors; build the false beams around them, accented with a small crown.

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Not bad, once again.......they need to be removable.

titanoman 12-29-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills314 (Post 806531)
Not bad, once again.......they need to be removable.

They can just rest on top of the crown.

Mills314 12-30-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 806534)
They can just rest on top of the crown.

Yep, thats what I was thinking. I guess overall, I am wondering if it would be better to maybe do that entire side of the basement in that particular style. I am sure that it would be more pricy.........but man would it look good versus the drop ceiling.

I am looking at about 450 square feet. I am thinking using reclaimed wood as the beams. Maybe building some false ones.

I guess overall I am thinking that it may look somewhat silly with the drop ceiling butted up against the nice wood ceiling.

oldhouseguy 12-30-2011 01:40 PM

My parents had a basement in a house they owned up north, it had an amazing bar and fireplace.

The entire basement was done with reclaimed rustic barn board and some real beams (mantel) and some faux beams that matched.

The ceiling was a classic drop ceiling and it just ruined the entire look. You just always looked up, and back then they didn't offer as many drop ceiling options as they do today.

I would really try not to use a drop ceiling if you are going for a really rustic look.

I wish I had some pictures to show you how great everything looked until you looked up, but sadly, I don't.

If you somehow built your own wood grid and used wood panels there is no reason you can't figure out how to make them removable. They might even need to be screwed up there, but you could still consider them removable because I doubt you will be taking them down unless something happens where you need access.


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