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doubler1950 04-11-2013 02:40 PM

attaching 2x4 to brick
 
I want to attach a 2x4 to a horizonal brick wall. This is to build a frame to secure lattice to one side of my carport. What is the best way to attach the wood stud to the brick so it will hold up to nails being driven in?:whistling2:

Dorado 04-11-2013 03:16 PM

I was disappointed recently when I read that a popular construction adhesive only lasts 20 years, so I'd use something other than that.

doubler1950 04-11-2013 03:41 PM

adhesive
 
Thanks I was thinking maybe cement nails but it is really hard to get them in

tony.g 04-11-2013 04:39 PM

Why not just drill and plug with screws?
As you say the masonry nails are not that predictable.

jagans 04-11-2013 09:01 PM

Tapcon screws in the mortar joints. Put a serpentine bead of urethane sealant on the back before screwing in.

sixeightten 04-11-2013 09:33 PM

Using screws to attach the lattice would also help. The vibration from the blows with the hammer can cause your fasteners to come loose. Tapcons and glue on the wood to masonry.

user1007 04-11-2013 11:38 PM

I would use a masonry bit and drill for anchors into the brick, not the mortar. Insert the masonry anchors and then screw into them. I would be worried if the lattice wobbled around the fasteners in the mortar could cause the joints to deteriorate. The bricks should be more solid.

Admittedly, overkill perhaps.

woodworkbykirk 04-12-2013 06:09 AM

adhesive alone will fail over time, you need to use a mechancial fastener as well. either using tapcons, or plastic sleeve anchors for brick

user1007 04-12-2013 08:20 AM

Maybe plastic anchors inside but outside the temperature extremes will cause them to fail. I would use lead/zinc metal anchors.

And don't underestimate the wind loads on something like a plant covered trellis. You can end up with quite a bit of "sail effect" yanking at or trying to sheer off the fasteners even though the trellis itself may not weigh that much.

doubler1950 04-12-2013 03:04 PM

thanks
 
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Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 1157493)
Maybe plastic anchors inside but outside the temperature extremes will cause them to fail. I would use lead/zinc metal anchors.

And don't underestimate the wind loads on something like a plant covered trellis. You can end up with quite a bit of "sail effect" yanking at or trying to sheer off the fasteners even though the trellis itself may not weigh that much.


Thanks, there won't be any weight except yhe tresllis itself. I do want to go with something sturdy though. Many thanks.

bcgfdc3 04-12-2013 03:07 PM

Tapcon brand screw will work or you can use sleeve anchors or the brand name Hilti bolts like below.


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doubler1950 04-12-2013 03:07 PM

Thank you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk (Post 1157427)
adhesive alone will fail over time, you need to use a mechancial fastener as well. either using tapcons, or plastic sleeve anchors for brick


Appreciate your answer. I was actually thinking of using sleeve anchors,but as anothe rguy said I guess the cold might affect them so it will be medal anchors.

doubler1950 04-12-2013 03:08 PM

Thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 1157340)
I would use a masonry bit and drill for anchors into the brick, not the mortar. Insert the masonry anchors and then screw into them. I would be worried if the lattice wobbled around the fasteners in the mortar could cause the joints to deteriorate. The bricks should be more solid.

Admittedly, overkill perhaps.


Part of what I needed to know was what to drill into. Thank you so much.

doubler1950 04-12-2013 03:10 PM

thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixeightten (Post 1157238)
Using screws to attach the lattice would also help. The vibration from the blows with the hammer can cause your fasteners to come loose. Tapcons and glue on the wood to masonry.

Makes sense to me. I'll try screws instead.


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