Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Carpentry

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-07-2013, 10:05 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3
Share |
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


I am in the process of remodeling my basement and ran into a small problem that we have not been able to figure out. We have a very tight spot that requires us to frame a door on a 45 degree angle. If I want to put 2 1/4 in trim around the door frame how would we frame this out and have the draywall lay properly as well?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

mlbochen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 07:46 AM   #2
AHH, SPANS!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 1,653
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


to conserve as much space as possible in the area, if you have the space on the 45 degree wall then figure about a half inch to an inch of drywall remaining to the inside drywall corner past the outer edge of the the door trim.you can even rip the trim on the inside wall side to fit- I've done it many times in tight basement remodels.

example, a 30" door would require a 32" rough opening. the door itself would be 29 3/4" and the trim will come onto the jamb within 1/4" from the inside edge. so with 2 1/4" trim the outside edges of the trim will be 35 1/8". for a 1/2" of drywall remaining on the wall past the trim to the inside wall corner the wall plate short point to the 45 degree corner should be 37 1/8". so, add about 1 " past the outer trim dimension per side and with the thickness of the drywall where it turns the corner on the 45 degree you end up right at a 1/2" of drywall for the drywall to the inside corner. that is cutting it pretty close so if you can expand the wall plate size out some past the door it will be easier, but that is easier to say than do in some refined basement spacing situations...

what size door do you want to add into the space?

hand drive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 07:51 AM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 26,248
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Got a picture of this opening?
Sometimes you have to rip the casing on one side as a last resort.
__________________
When posting in forums, letting us know your location will help others give better feedback/advice/solutions to your questions
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 08:53 AM   #4
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Here is a picture of the space/door frame. It is not the best picture but you can see how we got the frame to angle at a 45. However, by doing this it creates a strange space to meet the trim or casing and the draywall. Something just does not seem right on this...
Attached Thumbnails
45 Degree Wall with Door-door-opening.jpg  
mlbochen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 09:10 AM   #5
Roofmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,534
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Sorry, I dont get it. Why dont you just frame the right wall out to line up with the left wall, and put a short return on it like 4 inches?

Who framed this, Len the Plumber?
__________________
" A lot of men build things, and a lot of things fall down "


Last edited by jagans; 04-08-2013 at 09:12 AM.
jagans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 09:21 AM   #6
AHH, SPANS!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 1,653
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


is that the exact rough opening for the door or can you add more framing into the opening?
hand drive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 09:46 AM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Yes. That is the exact rough for a 32" door. I guess if I take the door down to a 24" door I can build a little more around the frame giving some addtional room for the door casing.
mlbochen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 09:59 AM   #8
AHH, SPANS!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 1,653
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


my example above is for a 30" door, maybe that can help? might have to plan on ripping the trim down for the inside which is totally OK

Last edited by hand drive; 04-08-2013 at 10:06 AM.
hand drive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #9
Member
 
MJ Force's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 196
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Here's what I would do. It may require you to dismantle what you've done so far.

The stability of the door opening is essential, but difficult to achieve on a 'bay-door' opening fastened to concrete. I would suggest larger 2x material for the top/bottom plate. This would eliminate the need for a very small plate in the door opening, which could eventually fail. Using one piece of 2x8* for the bottom plate allows for a stronger transition at the mitre and strengthens the framing for the opening.

See if my diagram helps. Drawing the layout on the floor first may help in your planning and will help to determine lumber dimensions

45 Degree Wall with Door-image-33251821.jpg

.
MJ Force is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MJ Force For This Useful Post:
hand drive (04-08-2013)
Old 04-08-2013, 11:12 PM   #10
AHH, SPANS!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 1,653
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


that is very smart MJ force and would allow for a stronger plate than would otherwise be there. just rip the plate down to 3 1/2" where you show the dotted lines and follow the 45 degree around with the rip. the use of construction adhesive is recommended as well... another way is to just pad it inward until desired opening is achieved with treated studs that go to the floor without the plate under them and use the strength of the straight wall with the bottom plate angle cut to hold the studs in place along with glue.

Last edited by hand drive; 04-08-2013 at 11:16 PM.
hand drive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 01:00 AM   #11
Member
 
MJ Force's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 196
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Yup construction adhesive under the plate would work. Sometimes a concrete anchor is not practical if the floor is thin.
Regarding ripping down to 3 1/2; That could cause the plate, under the cripple of the opening, to split. If a wide sole plate in the utility room isn't a problem I would leave it. But if you have to rip it down, get the glue under there.
Also a bi-fold door may work here too if there isn't a fire code issue with the utility room or a noise issue . In a finished basement a bifold door looks more like a closet rather than a door to a utility room.
MJ Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 07:17 AM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 26,248
Default

45 Degree Wall with Door


Where's the top plates?
Is that a pressure treated bottom plate?
Got to make sure that door is wide enought to get that water heater out if it fails.
What's up with that ladder looking framing?

__________________
When posting in forums, letting us know your location will help others give better feedback/advice/solutions to your questions
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Basement Concrete Wall Framing Against Stairs Epicsoccer Remodeling 7 01-13-2013 03:11 PM
pocket flipper kit for room doors? anuvanoob Carpentry 7 10-23-2012 09:31 AM
Exterior Door and Uneven Wall dcase84 Windows and Doors 6 10-06-2012 09:00 PM
Help hanging a problematic door Termite Carpentry 12 07-21-2008 07:05 PM
Door frame against stone wall elliowb Carpentry 8 12-14-2007 04:03 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.