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 canyonbc 01-11-2010 02:25 PM

16 x 20 deck question

Passing on a question that was asked to me, and I am not sure either way so I thought I would ask everyone here.

The situation:

Friend of mine is looking to install a 16 x 20 deck, 16' feet against the house and 20 feet out

His house is on a sill wall with a small crawl space. Currently he has a 8 foot sliding glass door with some old concrete steps. He wants to put a 16 x 20 deck.

The question, from F.G. - Finished Grade to the bottom of the sliding glass door is 18 1/2'' when we did the calculations

2 x 6 P.T. as the deck board = 1.5''
2 x 8 P.T. Joist = 7.5''
4 x 6 P.T. Beams = 5.5''
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14.5''
Calculate footings up 2.5'' approx and then looked at the Simpson ABA or ABU attachments another 1'' approx.

This would leave no room for a column, is this ok?

I can not see why it would be a problem, and we need to contact the city as they will be the final deciders but wanted to see if anyone has had any experience with anything like this in there personal or work experience.

On a deck this low does anyone have any other suggestions on how they would build it.

 Ron6519 01-11-2010 03:14 PM

You would set the sonotubes at the height the 4x6's would be sitting on the standoffs.
Ron

 canyonbc 01-11-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 380887) You would set the sonotubes at the height the 4x6's would be sitting on the standoffs. Ron
Sonotubes - ? - Would that be the the 12'' x 12'' x 48'' concrete form???

So set it up a couple inches so the 4 x 6 beam can rest on the concrete pier??? That is the plan wanted to get everyones thought on the idea.

 Ron6519 01-11-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by canyonbc (Post 380891) Sonotubes - ? - Would that be the the 12'' x 12'' x 48'' concrete form??? So set it up a couple inches so the 4 x 6 beam can rest on the concrete pier??? That is the plan wanted to get everyones thought on the idea.
Sonotubes are just one companies name for cardboard tubes you fill with concrete. They come in various widths.
Ron

 canyonbc 01-11-2010 09:11 PM

Thank you,

Glad to here a confirmation from somoene else that the design is valid.

 canyonbc 01-12-2010 02:39 PM

Anyone else??

Any other designs?

Thanks,
Mike

 brogeflog 01-12-2010 06:47 PM

Mike,

Check out www.decks.com - they have some great tools for materials and structural calculations.

How about using standard 5/4 decking for the deck surface?...that will give you a little more room for footings and beams

Brian

 tpolk 01-12-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by canyonbc (Post 381208) Thank you, Glad to here a confirmation from somoene else that the design is valid.
confirmation is for measurements not the design. You need to take into account loads= material plus lotsa people so how its -designed- needs to be looked at closely

 canyonbc 01-12-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by brogeflog (Post 381710) Mike, Check out www.decks.com - they have some great tools for materials and structural calculations. How about using standard 5/4 decking for the deck surface?...that will give you a little more room for footings and beams Brian
Thanks Brian, I will check it out.

 canyonbc 01-12-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tpolk (Post 381715) confirmation is for measurements not the design. You need to take into account loads= material plus lotsa people so how its -designed- needs to be looked at closely
Well Thank you.

The city has the the city engineer sign off on everything to make sure it is code approved and will be "Strong" enough.

my main concern was the measurements line up and at least make some logical since to people and we do not go down the city and get laughed at.

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