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Old 12-01-2009, 08:56 AM   #1
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Hey Dave (or anybody else that might be able to help)., I was hoping, with you being IT and all you could help out with my other situation. I still have not found a better way yet.


http://www.diychatroom.com/f2/faster...ows-7-a-57797/

and now I have another problem as well concerning 7.

HP laserjet 1012 printer; HP states they are not developing driver for 7. I had found online a method to make it work and it did, for awhile.

method:

install new printer; existing port; dot 4 generic ....; HP printer; Laserjet 2200 series PL5


when I did that, it worked great. Then, for some unknown reason, it stopped working and now only spits out paper with

"unsupported personality: PCL"

printed on it.


any help with either problem???

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Old 12-01-2009, 09:03 AM   #2
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I haven't upgraded to 7 yet - so no experience..sorry
Corporate users tend to not jump top new OS
I usually only buy a new OS with a new PC - wish I had not w/Vista
I have a scanner that doesn't work with Vista
I've tried all sorts of things from sites that say it should work
Part of the fun of a new OS, they try to make you buy other new stuff

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Old 12-06-2009, 07:40 AM   #3
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and now I have another problem as well concerning 7.

HP laserjet 1012 printer; HP states they are not developing driver for 7. I had found online a method to make it work and it did, for awhile.
I hate saying this but just quit fussing and replace the printer with a brand new one that is compatible with W7. I hate to be wasteful but when I see my ink cartridges running low? I look on eBay, make sure I am bidding on a new, in box, with OEM cartridges, printer. I end up with a brand spanking new thing for what I would have paid or about $10 more than the cartridges---or sometimes less. Including free shipping.

I do recycle the printer (a Canon fan) I use their free shipping program that takes in old printers. I use to offer them them to charity but thought that was mean when I thought about it. I am on my fourth, brand new inkjet printer and second photo printer this year.

Now I guess if you have some emotional attachment to this HP thing that is how old? It would be tough to let it go?

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Old 12-06-2009, 07:54 AM   #4
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I might have to but my printer is several hundred dollars. Dang, the toner cartridge alone (which is brand new) is $80.


I had it re-installed so it was working and since my restart this morning, it still is working. Somewhere along the line, the computer seems to want to re-install it using the right driver (which is non-existent) and I'm back to the fiddling again.

Oh well.
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I might have to but my printer is several hundred dollars. Dang, the toner cartridge alone (which is brand new) is $80.


I had it re-installed so it was working and since my restart this morning, it still is working. Somewhere along the line, the computer seems to want to re-install it using the right driver (which is non-existent) and I'm back to the fiddling again.

Oh well.
I feel your pain. Like Dave, I never could find the right scanner driver to make Windows version whatever happy at one point.

Do keep in mind my advice next time you need a cartridge though. I despise the very concept of throwing things that work out but refuse to stick $65-70 worth of ink cartridges into a printer I can get new online with cartridges for $80. I figure if I ship enough of the things back to Canon they will be annoyed enough to get the message at some point?

I bought a little workhorse of Canon B&W printer and moved and bashed it up all around the country. Hence my brand loyalty. It was new on the market and I paid $200 for it. I fed it about $560,000 in ink though which makes as much sense as sticking film in a disposable camera.
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That's what would happen with my scanner
It would seem to work, then dead again
Its a conspiracy to get the economy going
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That's what would happen with my scanner
It would seem to work, then dead again
Its a conspiracy to get the economy going
I seriously believe you are correct...at least HP's economy. I can't vouch for the rest of the world because they don't seem to be knowingly screwing me at the moment.

I don't know what it takes to design a driver for a printer but apparently this is quite a large problem based on the queries I found when trying to deal with it.


Dave, maybe you can explain something, maybe not.

HP says the are not going to make a driver for this printer, fine. I found a kid online that said do this...

load a driver for a different HP printer and guess what, it works (although keeping it loaded as such seems to be the problem at the moment). (mine HP laserjet 1012; the other driver package for an HP 2200 plc5) Can you educate me in any way that would make sense to me as to why they couldn't just include my now, apparently intentionally defunct, printer in that other printers driver package?
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Go to the HP forum, lots of help for Windows 7 and drivers.
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thanks mikey. I'll give them a try.
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maybe if you ran it in XP mode it'd work right?

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We used to have to setup printers under Unix....lines per page, other features
It really wasn't all that hard as far as basic functions
Each printer has some very basic (IMO) features:
Margins, lines per page, color or B/W/greyscale printing etc

Based on my very limited experience there really isn't much involved in a new driver (for basic operation)
The problem is when they make 20+ printers a year, 20+ scanners..etc etc
Multiply that by 10-15 years & you have hundreds if not thousands of drivers that need to be updated
So it comes down to cost......and they'd rather sell a new printer
XP came out in 2002, my printer & scanner are at least 10 years old
Even Microsoft stops support after ~10 years

The OS is now smart enough to know when an incorrect driver is installed
So it will keep trying to correct the problem

Used to be an option to go in & set it to ignore & just use the driver installed...not sure if that still exists somewhere
Under Crapista printer aren't even listed under Devices...it's seperate
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I've run into this one for a customer not long ago. There was a way to load 3055 drivers and get your printer working in Win7. Unfortunately after an update to the OS this has ceased to work. I've been following a few threads on this and so far no one seems to have found a solution. It's possible to get it working in a very basic way but as soon as you try to print a complicated page, like a website for example, you'll get errors.
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Each printer has some very basic (IMO) features:
says the IT guy to the very non-IT guy



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The OS is now smart enough to know when an incorrect driver is installed
So it will keep trying to correct the problem
I hope it is smart enough to know I am pissed off and it tells it's maker.

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Used to be an option to go in & set it to ignore & just use the driver installed...not sure if that still exists somewhere
I can only hope
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Under Crapista printer aren't even listed under Devices...it's seperate
and continued on in 7
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well, it appears the driver for the laserjet 2200 works fine for anything I do. The problem comes when shutting down and restarting the computer and the puter sees the old 1012 setting in the corner and tries to be friends with it without asking me first.

I have scolded my computer thoroughly but as most teenagers will, it simply ignores me.

Is there anyway to get my computer to ignore the "new" device?

still looking on other forums as well but just like with Microsoft, having 3000 people working on one thing provides better results..


Oh, wait, at least in their case, no it doesn't.
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Hate to bring it up again, but brand new Canon all in one printer with color and B&W cartridges (that cost as much if you buy them separately), boxed with a USB cable are on an sale everywhere for like $50!

I hate being wasteful but come on. Get a new one compatible with 7 or whatever unless you put no value on your time. Use the Canon or HP plan to recycle your old printer. If you are into HP? Get an HP laser on sale for $90 on ebay, in box, with cartridge.

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