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kbs2244 12-22-2007 05:21 PM

page saves in XP
 
I an now running Windows XP. Upgraded from 98.
I surf a lot, and like to save pages that are of intrest.
98 would save theses pages in two parts. A folder with all the PICS and a regular file with the text.
My old machine had a real small HD, so I taught myself enough HTML to be able to edit out all the "fluff" from both parts of a page save and keep only the real information. I do not expect to want to read cars ads in 2 or 4 years when I open these files.
In 98 I was able to open the file, then Edit it with notepad.
I cannot do this in XP. The page is saved as one file and the Edit function is not turned on.
How can I get into these files and get rid of the fluff?

MinConst 12-22-2007 06:29 PM

You might be saving a page that is not html. There are newer codes being use and you won't be able to edit their pages. If it is an html page nothing has changed. Look at the file extension like the one above in the address bar it ends in .php. Not htm or html. Save this page and editing it is all but not possible. They are more or less created on the server as needed. Really has nothing to do with your OS.

NothingsLevel 12-23-2007 07:50 AM

You're saving it wrong. There are 2 options for saving a file in IE, one as HTML + images, one as a "package" which bundles everything together. But really, you're creating a lot of unnecessary work for yourself.

I quit using IE YEARS ago. Do yourself a favor and upgrade to Firefox or Opera. Firefox has an add-on available called AdBlock Plus which will hide the ads completely while you're browsing.

Then you can print the pages to PDF (get a free PDF print driver like PDF Creator) and save yourself all that time. PDF as a format will be around for a very, very long time and will preserve the appearance of the pages you save (including not seeing hte ads you blocked with AdBlock Plus).

space_coyote 12-23-2007 09:56 AM

^^^^

I find it almost impossible to surf now without firefox and the updated Adblock filters! It's amazing.... I never realized how many ads were on the forums until I started using my wife's laptop (which works well from the couch :) )

pmacedo 12-30-2007 08:17 AM

I'd try switching to a different browser. Sometimes you can cheat things by going to IE and doing a save through there. A handy plugin for this is the IE tab for firefox. You can right click the page and choose 'open in IE tab' so that you can use the IE functionality within firefox

pmacedo 12-30-2007 08:20 AM

Oh... and If you were using IE already... Try Firefox instead!

kbs2244 12-30-2007 11:02 AM

Thanks for the replys.
I am stuck with IE for now. Firefox maybe, but not yet.
I will try and see what the file extentions are.
But something I just noticed when opening one of the files yesterday was that it seem to go online!
Could it be that I am not actually saving the data localy, but just the address, and opening the file just sends me to wherever it is stored on the net?

NothingsLevel 12-30-2007 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kbs2244 (Post 83909)
Thanks for the replys.
I am stuck with IE for now. Firefox maybe, but not yet.

Why is that?
I
Quote:

Originally Posted by kbs2244 (Post 83909)
But something I just noticed when opening one of the files yesterday was that it seem to go online!
Could it be that I am not actually saving the data localy, but just the address, and opening the file just sends me to wherever it is stored on the net?

It's possible - what's the file size? And the extension? It's also possible that when you save the page, it's still referencing one or more items online, so IE is trying to go out and find them.

Like I said before, if you're looking to save the content for later, the easiest solution is Firefox plus AdBlock (to strip the ads), then print to PDF.

fierysun 12-30-2007 07:30 PM

Have you tried using Google Notebook? It's a browser add-on. I use it to clip parts of web pages. It allows me to categorize the clips with url trace backs.

kbs2244 12-31-2007 10:26 AM

I am stuck with IE for now due to support issues. (Although I seem to have the thin holiday crew stuck on this issue.)
I don't have any pop-up problems. My filters take care of that.

I am playing with the different save options. I didn't realize there was more than one.
If I find one that is the same as what I am used to, how do I make it the default save option?
If I dig out my old machine with 98 on it can I check what was the default save option? Was ther more than one under 98?

I think I am saving the actual data localy. The going online problem seems to be in the ads that are part of the HTML saved.
(The display ads mixed in with the data and along the edges of the page.)
I have opened a few test copies in Notebook and fooled around with the HTML. Not the way I am used to, and it dosn't save it right. But I can cut out the code that goes online so that when I reopen the file it dosn't go online.

I will continue my quest, but any guiding is helpful.

NothingsLevel 12-31-2007 10:29 AM

You can still print to PDF from IE using PDFCreator. You'll still have the ads in there, but you won't have the "going online" problem. And the PDF format will be around for a very long time, and won't change how it's displayed at all.

What "support" do you need to download Firefox, click a couple times, and run it? If it's a matter of not having admin rights on the computer, get PortableFirefox, which you can put anywhere and run, no installation required.

kbs2244 12-31-2007 10:37 AM

As I was entering that I was remembering that under 98, before I did the "save as" I was able to click on "Edit with note pad" in the "file" menu.
That is what is missing now and that was where I did my editing.
I may be asking the wrong question.
Is there a way to keep the "edit with notepad" function open before I do a file save?
Is that one of the default file type options?
Is it something the people sending the page have control over?
I just checked this page, the DIY chatroom, and it is avaible to me.
"Save as" want to save this page as a .MHT

kbs2244 12-31-2007 10:46 AM

I do need to be able to cut and past out of these saved files.
Can I do that with the free PDF version?
That is why I have been keeping them in HTML
I like to go to the "Print" option that many of the pages have. That cuts off a lot of the ads. But then some of them seem to turn off the save to disk ability of the print style display.
If I run into one that just will not let me save it I have even cut from the online screen into a .DOC if I feel the data is worth it.

NothingsLevel 12-31-2007 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbs2244 (Post 84231)
I do need to be able to cut and past out of these saved files.
Can I do that with the free PDF version?
That is why I have been keeping them in HTML

You should be able to, with a decent PDF reader. Costs you nothing to try, so why not experiment?

NothingsLevel 12-31-2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbs2244 (Post 84231)
I like to go to the "Print" option that many of the pages have. That cuts off a lot of the ads. But then some of them seem to turn off the save to disk ability of the print style display.

That's not possible. A web page cannot disable your ability to save the page, unless they're using IE's modal option for opening new windows. In which case the operator(s) of the site should be taken out back and shot.


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