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Old 03-30-2012, 10:44 PM   #16
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Is my PC slow on the net because of old memory?


You certainly do not need to buy a new computer. Age doesn't matter so much as specs, and yours is plenty powerful enough to take advantage of your available internet speeds. The proof:

My old Gateway laptop (circa 2004, IIRC) with a 2.4GHz P4 and 512MB RAM loads web pages lightning fast. While I did recently max out the memory to 1.2GB, that has no effect on how fast web pages load. Performance in that regard was the same before and after the upgrade.

My li'l Asus netbook, which is actually my primary computer about 80% of the time, has a single core 1.6GHz Intel Atom processor. It also zips around the web very quickly.

Both machines run the 'dreaded' Norton Internet Security, and both machines load web pages instantly with my 15Mb/s cable internet.

I totally disagree that your CPU isn't powerful enough, and somewhat disagree (in principle) on the memory issue. Yes, you absolutely should upgrade your memory to whatever your motherboard will allow. Your RAM is slow by todays standards (even by yesterdays standards) but having more of it will definitely help. I disagree that a lack of memory alone is causing your machine to run slow, although it will negatively affect performance once you've used up the little you have available.

You should definitely reinstall XP if possible. It's the only complete and absolute way to clean everything up. Also, be sure to install the latest version of the browser of your choice - preferably Chrome or Firefox. They are constantly being tweaked to speed things up.

I would bet that the overwhelming majority of people who think they need a new computer actually do not, and that those same people with quad-cores and 6GB of RAM never even use a fraction of that available computing power.

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:10 PM   #17
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You certainly do not need to buy a new computer. Age doesn't matter so much as specs, and yours is plenty powerful enough to take advantage of your available INTERNET speeds. The proof:
I could NOT disagree more.
Age does in fact matter. The age of your Processor,your ram,your HD your motherboard all matter.An example of that is the updates that get released for BIOS and motherboards. Pc & laptops today come standard with 4 gigs of ram, he is working with 512MBs there is a reason why they come with 4 gigs and it's because of technology that is ever changing. 10 Years ago there was no where near the software programs that there are now.

The experience you've had on your personal PC/laptop is the exception for sure.
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It does not matter how fast your ISP connection is, the computer is the weakest link. You stated what the RAM was, but what processor is this machine using? My guess is that it is a older P3, or Celeron, that is less than 1ghz. Also, what Operating system? 512mb is barely usable anymore with today's OS.

At ten years old, the machine has reached its usable lifespan.
Absolutely correct! In addition to that your PC is only as fast as the web page server it's talking to.

Bottom line is it comes down to how quickly the machine your working on can process information.

The technology changes monthly in the computer world.
As for Norton/symantec it is by far the worst program to put on your PC.the resources and ram it uses to operate is ridiculous! would never use it.
Try avast,has worked well thus far for me. If you do and need a key,PM me.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:54 PM   #18
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And much as I hate the idea of filling up landfills with high tech junk? You all trying to rescue this thing cannot possibly be suggesting pumping money into a legacy machine with no chance, even with a processor switch and boosting memory large as the Motherboard will hold?

Bet any of you $5 (please PM and PayPal me) there will be a brand spanking new, decent laptop or desktop on sale RETAIL for like $300 in the Sunday paper tomorrow.

Memory is cheap I suppose but you all cannot be serious suggesting this guy not just have a funeral service with eulogies about how it really did last longer than most and it should have?

Stuff its mouth full of snow and leave it on the tundra. It's useful life is over and pumping it up with an operating system soon to be abandoned is in the category of fools errands. I suspect software running on the operating system will soon be useless too.
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I could NOT disagree more.
Age does in fact matter. The age of your Processor,your ram,your HD your motherboard all matter.An example of that is the updates that get released for BIOS and motherboards. Pc & laptops today come standard with 4 gigs of ram, he is working with 512MBs there is a reason why they come with 4 gigs and it's because of technology that is ever changing. 10 Years ago there was no where near the software programs that there are now.
I would argue that this is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Yes, PC's today come with much more RAM - but many of them are running a 64-bit OS that requires more memory, and even if it's 32-bit, it's still Windows 7, a much more advanced OS than XP. This works both ways - you're arguing that computers today need more memory, and that's a valid point, but that also proves my point that that computers from the era we're talking about didn't need as much. Keep in mind that I'm referring exclusively to web surfing. For just about everything else, yes, this computer is obsolete, but I still believe that with a fresh OS install, maxed out RAM, and the latest incarnation of whatever browser, web surfing should be quite fast. XP, even with a mere 1GB of RAM, is sufficient for web browsing and light-duty computing, IMO.

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And much as I hate the idea of filling up landfills with high tech junk? You all trying to rescue this thing cannot possibly be suggesting pumping money into a legacy machine with no chance, even with a processor switch and boosting memory large as the Motherboard will hold?

Bet any of you $5 (please PM and PayPal me) there will be a brand spanking new, decent laptop or desktop on sale RETAIL for like $300 in the Sunday paper tomorrow.

Memory is cheap I suppose but you all cannot be serious suggesting this guy not just have a funeral service with eulogies about how it really did last longer than most and it should have?

Stuff its mouth full of snow and leave it on the tundra. It's useful life is over and pumping it up with an operating system soon to be abandoned is in the category of fools errands. I suspect software running on the operating system will soon be useless too.
For what it's worth, I was by no means suggesting that buying a new computer was a bad idea. He could buy a new PC that's much more powerful than the one he has for a fraction of the cost of whatever he paid at the time for his current machine. My point is that he could refresh this PC to be much faster for much less money than buying a new one.

If it's going to spend most of it's powered-on time surfing the web, I don't think a new computer is necessary. If it's going to be used for more processor/memory intensive tasks like HD video, games, video encoding, Photoshop, then he'd probably be better off with a new rig.
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I would argue that this is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Yes, PC's today come with much more RAM - but many of them are running a 64-bit OS that requires more memory, and even if it's 32-bit, it's still Windows 7, a much more advanced OS than XP. This works both ways - you're arguing that computers today need more memory, and that's a valid point, but that also proves my point that that computers from the era we're talking about didn't need as much. Keep in mind that I'm referring exclusively to web surfing. For just about everything else, yes, this computer is obsolete, but I still believe that with a fresh OS install, maxed out RAM, and the latest incarnation of whatever browser, web surfing should be quite fast. XP, even with a mere 1GB of RAM, is sufficient for web browsing and light-duty computing, IMO.
Absolutely no arguments with you on this. I grew up in the personal computing industry. I helped automate a public relations practice and plunked a PC on ever desk. I did the same for a major PR/Publications office of a top research university with both DOS (then) and Apple (icky) machines. The first machine assigned me came with 32K of memory and was the size of a desk. You could program it in nouns and verbs and a pattern recognition language.

I forget the brand of the first DOS machine I had at home and I do not want to try and count the number of computers I have owned personally or bought over the years.

But you know, even though it might still work wherever it its? And I suppose it could surf the web? Each old machine of mine should have been recycled. Everything I wrote on old machines is absolutely worthless. The software used on the machine is gone. Even if the discs worked, I could not open the files. I guess Microsoft has to stick by XP for awhile but other software vendors will not.

And come on. The paradigm in computer technology is shifting rapidly from software driven to hardware driven. If you just want an interface to the internet? Big Lots and other online liquidators are selling nice Android tablets for $100 or so.

For the last years of my work life, I restored antique things. I hate our disposable culture attitude but when it comes to PCs. You just have to upgrade to better technology. Nothing is gained by trying to retro them after a point. The OPs machine has reached the end of its life.

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Just want to provide an update on a couple simple steps I took that showed real results. First, I got rid of Spybot Search and Destroy from the PC and I saw tremendous improvement in web surfing speeds and no more teatimer searching for updates and such. Best move I made by far! I also discovered Google Chrome seems to work faster than Internet Explorer, much faster at times, although it can't handle certain fuctions like Paypal shipping labels and other unique things I do. For the most part though, I have said SO LONG to IE. Just these two things alone have upgraded my surfing speed to a point where I am much more happy. I know I could do more, such as re-installing the operating system and some other things but I am content right now with it.

For the record, I agree with Jay 78. I am only surfing the web here. I don't need to buy another PC even if it is just a few hundred dollars. I also can maneuver faster with a keyboard and a mouse versus a tablet so I don't want to bother with that. I may look into the memory upgrade because I do like to run CDs while I surf and sometimes that function gets bogged down on WMP if I have too many windows open.

Thanks for all the info from everyone. It has been quite informative.

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