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noquacks 11-17-2011 07:30 AM

do websites need to be entirely redone after 5 years?
 
People,

My webmaster gets paid $28/month, to host our site- I hardly ever ask her do "fix" anything. Our site was built 5 yrs ago I guess, with older technology (a lot of HTML, tedious maintenence, etc), and shes telling me now that even if I hire an SEO person theior work may not help much cuz the site is "old".

She said it needs to be entirely done, as its so old, it doesnt even help to lessen the work as all has to start from scratch. Geez. First impulse would be from me "why dddo I pay the $28/month for?

So, is this typical old sites that old? She said it would cost $1600 (and $2000+ is going rate).

Suggestions/opinions valued.

noquacks

DangerMouse 11-17-2011 07:42 AM

Wow.... that sure sounds like a way to get more $$$ from you to me!
....and a rather large load of manure.... what is the web site for? PM me a link if it's not a site you can show here, I'm curious. Thanks!

DM

shazapple 11-17-2011 08:28 AM

Why is it a load of manure? Unfortunately there is the idea that the internet is free, but it takes training and knowledge to build, host, and maintain websites. You would probably faint at the amount of money spent to host and maintain diychatroom.com

5 year is very old in website terms. The $28/month would cover your hosting fees (where to store the website) and the domain registration (the rights to your web address) as well as their time (maintenance, changes, etc). For comparison I have a website for my family and it costs around $12/month, but i do all of my own maintenance and upgrades. What you pay is not that much.

It is going to take them a couple days worth of work to build the website, go over it with you, and make any changes. Based on the time I spend building my website, I don't think the estimate she gave you is that bad.

DangerMouse 11-17-2011 09:01 AM

???? I have THREE free websites. :)
For the majority of people wanting to put out a personal/small business site, free is best. However, if you're a business and are willing to pay thousands for the services, it may well be in your best interest to do so. If you make enough $$$ from your site to justify it, go for it.

DM

noquacks 11-17-2011 09:02 AM

Manure....LOL!

Tanks, guys, for the quick and personal advice. Im starting to get edukated. Now, Musican, I would like to send you the link, but have to "OK" it with the boss (you know, so far, Im anonymous). It is a pretty big site, with loads of data- catalog with 5000+ items.

I have a feeling the gal is right, but Im not 100% satisfied yet..........thats why Im here.

Thanks

DangerMouse 11-17-2011 09:10 AM

Why would you need to clear it to PM me a link? Isn't that what websites are FOR? You kinda WANT people going to look, right? I know I do! But all I ever try to sell is a magic box or trick here and there too.
But if it's a problem, no biggie. :)

DM

47_47 11-17-2011 02:42 PM

Sites need to be constantly changed / upgraded.
noquacks, sent you a pm with a link to my site.

rossfingal 11-17-2011 03:13 PM

"noquacks"

A friend of mine is a "web-master" -
"HTML" - probably HTML4.
Things have changed somewhat.
Now, it's "CSS", "Dynamic HTML", "PHP" - and, other things.
"HTML5" is here - could be time for an "upgrade".
28$/mon. is not "large" money.
There's people who frequent this forum, who build web-sites -
maybe, one of them will add some info.

rossfingal

GottaFixIt 11-17-2011 03:24 PM

My business just recently switched web service providers. We were spending about $760 / month for 2 sites. We combined them and cut it back to about $500.
We generally revamp our site from scratch every 2 years at about $2000-$3500.
Added content and upgrades may add anywhere from $100-$200 / month.

We spend $1500 / month on our PPC campaign.
We spend about another $1000 / month on other avenues to post our inventory.
It's all well worth it as we cut our TV, Radio, Phone Book and Print-ads by about $40,000 / year and increased business.

$28 / month is hardly an investment.
$1600 is pretty cheap for a well designed, content rich site.

I'd be interested in seeing your site and what you're getting for $28 / month. Feel free to PM the link.

hyunelan2 11-17-2011 04:23 PM

$1,600 is dirt-cheap for a ground-up redesign. We paid over $3K for our last refresh, and are getting ready to issue RFPs for a ground-up redesign. We are anticipating near $10K for that. (City website).

noquacks 11-17-2011 05:21 PM

whew, soo many replies/offers to help!! Youre right, no biggee to PM a link.... Im gonna do that now to the fellow members that invited me to do so,

gimme a few minutes- and thanks in advance, people!

(lets see, who's first here.......)

noquacks 11-17-2011 05:27 PM

OK, a few PM's sent. Curious to read your feedback.

DangerMouse 11-17-2011 05:38 PM

PM received. Now that you've heard from others who know the difference between their posteriors and a spherical opening on a horizontal plane devoid of all mineral substances, (unlike me), I hope your question has been answered.

DM

noquacks 11-17-2011 06:30 PM

PM returned. Thanks for your help, DM.

Oh, I should make clear people, it is a commercial business site.

poppameth 11-18-2011 06:01 AM

We pay $160 a year for hosting and anti-spam service on our site. I do the rest of the site design built on a Wordpress install. That's all you need for many businesses. It also stays up to date with current technology more easily than traditional sites. However, if you need a more advanced and customized sort of site then you are going to be going through redesigns like this periodically. That isn't to say you couldn't build a site using Wordpress or a similar CMS system and then customize parts of it like your catalog. This could make it easier and less expensive to periodically upgrade parts of it.


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