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Old 11-11-2015, 02:59 PM   #1
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Fixing Fence Idea's ?


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I had a fence installed 4 yrs ago. The aluminum rails are attached from underneath via a couple of screws from the underside. You can see in one of the photo's a screw that's come out.. Unfortunately quite a few railings have come loose. (gardeners and wind i guess) While i have managed to fix one or two, via digging out a trench, underneath the fence, its very difficult to get a screw in from the underside and tightening it up. The top doesn't come off easiliy as far as i can tell.

I was wondering what other options i had in permanently fixing this fence.. Before my 20lb dog, who'll fit through a lose railing escapes chasing off some rabbit.

I was thinking of either getting some aluminum L brackets and screwing them in using a self tapping screw... Or even better, some kind of bond, that'll adhere to the painted aluminum. It doesn't need to be strong enough to swing an ape off it, just enough to hold it in place so that when the wind blows, it doesn't rattle the screws out the bottom of it.

Or I'd be happy to try my hand at welding some re-enforcing spots. Just wouldn't know what type of welder to use.

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Old 11-11-2015, 03:07 PM   #2
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Unless you get the brackets and they are powder coated black, I would just screw through at an angle from the top down to screw through the baluster and pick up the bottom rail.

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I can get dark brown aluminum brackets used for lanai repair, at lowes for next to nothing.

But if i can avoid that and just screw down from an angle then that may work.. Screw won't fit flush though. Could do it from the outside (lake side) so i'll never it.
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But if i can avoid that and just screw down from an angle then that may work.. Screw won't fit flush though. Could do it from the outside (lake side) so i'll never it.
Ayuh,.... You'll have to prick-punch the spindle, pre-drill the hole, then use SSteel screws,....

Don't over-torque 'em, SSteel screws break quite easily,...
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I have done a lot of welding over the years and unless you are experienced in welding AL don't try it .You will make a mess of it.The fence should have never been installed that close to the ground to start with.Is there a insert in the bottom of the tubing the screws go into?How many need fixed?
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Yes each rail has two screw holes. Problem is getting to them.

Hence the question of using an alternative method. Perhaps screwing in an L bracket on each loose rail.

Or perhaps an all weather bond ? I'm not really sure the best route to go

Another option maybe is a long self tapping aluminum screw in at an angle ?

What would the pro's do?
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What would the pro's do?
probably take it down, repair it, put it back up.
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I can't think of anything better so here is all I got.

A close quarter (AKA right angle) drill may create the need for less digging. Use SS screws if you can find the right ones.
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What would the pro's do?
The pros built it, it failed, so I wouldn't follow their foot steps. Your L bracket idea would be my first DIY'er choice after welding.
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Or I'd be happy to try my hand at welding some re-enforcing spots. Just wouldn't know what type of welder to use.
Ayuh,.... Weldin' is Not an option,....

Aluminum weldin' is done with shielding gases, usually indoors,....

The aluminum has to be perfectly Clean, which means grindin' off the finish,...

Diggin' a trench, 'n runnin' new ssteel screws in from below with a impact driver is probably still the Best option,...

My makita with a short bit would fit in a single scoop of a spade shovel,...

Put a dab of glue on each screw to hold it's place,...
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Ayuh,.... Weldin' is Not an option,....

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sure it is, no problem. MIG it on a calm day.
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Ayuh,.... Weldin' is Not an option,....

Aluminum weldin' is done with shielding gases, usually indoors,....

The aluminum has to be perfectly Clean, which means grindin' off the finish,...

Diggin' a trench, 'n runnin' new ssteel screws in from below with a impact driver is probably still the Best option,...

My makita with a short bit would fit in a single scoop of a spade shovel,...

Put a dab of glue on each screw to hold it's place,...
OP here...Just updating this... as it was over a yr ago... yes the way the problem was fixed is exactly as you mentioned. Dug a trench / hole at each loose baluster, and ran some new steel screws in from underneath, using a small compact Makita impact. Fixed it that way. And as long as you don't mind getting your tools a little dirty, its the best quickest fix !
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