DIY Chatroom -  DIY Home Improvement Forum
    DIY Forum     DIY Blogs     Photos     Woodworking     Advertise     Contact Us  

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!
Go Back   DIY Chatroom - DIY Home Improvement Forum > Do It Yourself > Home Theater

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-21-2011, 06:44 PM   #1
uva uvam videndo variafit
 
WirelessG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: W by God VA (bye MS )
Posts: 558
Default

Impedance Riddle


I'm currently running a Pioneer 1020-k with 2 Klipsch RB-62ii's for the front speaker, a Klipsch RC-62 center speaker, two energy take 5.1 bookshelves for surround speakers and the energy take 5.1 sub woofer. My previous received (Onkyo 706) fried because the left surround speaker. The new new Pioneer receiver can't get past calibration when it tests the surround speakers and it shuts down. I've checked the impedance and here's what I found:

Klipsch RB-62ii at the speaker post and wired to the receiver - 4 ohms

Energy speaker at the receiver posts and wired - 3-4 ohms
Energy speaker at the speaker location, wires disconnected and measured direct on the wires - 5 ohms
Energy speaker at the speaker post with wires disconnected - 4 ohms
Energy speaker at the speaker post with wires connected - 2-3 ohms

So the wires coming out of the wall with no speaker attached is 5 ohms, the speaker by itself is at 4 ohms, but the combination of the wires connected to the speaker drops the impedance down to 2-3 ohms. Does this make any sense? I'm using a new Fluke T5-1000 to measure the impedance and the probes zero out, so I believe it's working correctly.

I would appreciate any thoughts that you might have. I have two bookshelf speakers left over from the original Take 5.1 set. I was thinking about hooking them in series with the two surround speaker to increase the impedance. I believe that would reduce the current and protect the amp, but it would reduce the output and I'm not sure how the calibration would handle that. Thanks.

WirelessG is offline   Reply With Quote
Join DIYChatroom.com

Join the #1 DIY Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

DIYChatroom.com - Are you about to start a new home improvement task and need some help? Do you need advise on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that DIY Chatroom is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free.

Join DIYChatroom.com - Click Here
JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. DIYChatroom.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any home improvement task!
Old 08-25-2011, 09:13 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nashua, NH, USA
Posts: 6,729
Default

Impedance Riddle


The wires should measure "infinite" inpedance if there is no speaker attached, otherwise you have a short circuit in the wires.

Do not measure impedance across the speaker wires while both are connected to the receiver or amplifier. This gives no useful information and can blow the amp.

When connecting two speaker units to the same amplifier channel with the same impedance (two wires) connect one wire from the amplifier to one speaker, connect the other wire from the amplifier to the other speaker, and connect a short length of wire between the other terminals of the two speakers (a series connection).

Provided both speakers are each twice or more impedance as the amplifier you can connect them in parallel -- one amplifier wire to both speaker red terminals, tohe ther amplifier terminal to both speaker black terminals.

__________________
The disadvantages of crab apple trees. In summer, the apples are too sour to pick and eat. In winter the birds come and leave dropping all over the place.

Last edited by AllanJ; 08-25-2011 at 09:16 AM.
AllanJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2011, 01:59 PM   #3
uva uvam videndo variafit
 
WirelessG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: W by God VA (bye MS )
Posts: 558
Default

Impedance Riddle


Thanks. The wires were tested at the speaker location while still connected to the receiver (which was turned off). I contacted Klipsch and they said I would have to open the speaker and test the components individually, which is not something I want to do.

They said that the surround speaker were a bad match for the front speakers and they suggested another model. They also told me that I could uninstall all the speakers and then hook the rear speaker to the front channel one at a time and slowly increase the volume and see if the receiver cuts out and goes into self protect mode. I'm not anxious to do this because I'm worried that the receiver will get damaged (happened to the last one). I may get an audio/video company to come out and take a look at it.
WirelessG is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


-->
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
riddle me this: painting ceramic tile? 99th_Flyby General Discussion 4 06-08-2010 03:33 PM
Voltage leak? brewster39 Electrical 5 11-15-2009 09:38 AM
Paint riddle... Please help me fix this? techprincesse Painting 8 08-24-2009 11:00 AM
Can I add a second grounding bar to a GE box? Rodsnreels Electrical 40 02-21-2008 11:58 PM


Top of Page | View New Posts


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:19 AM.


© 2003 - 2010 The Building Network LLC