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humberguy 04-27-2014 09:38 AM

debating on running HDMI cable or cat 5e extender.
 
I am going to have a 50 foot run.

I was reading pros and cons between HDMI or using cat 5e extenders for HDMI signals on long runs.

Cons for HDMI was signal loss at 50 feet. I was reading the Con for HDMI extender was if I tie in cat 5e wires into a patch panel in the A/V room then connect HDMI extender, The extender won't work properly.

What is the best option. HDMI or HDMI extenders over cat 5e?

Bob Sanders 04-27-2014 11:39 AM

I would go HDMI.

You *SHOULD* be able to do 50 feet without any kind of amp or extender depending on the quality of the equipment involved, but if not then it's only an additional 25 or 30 bucks for an hdmi extender.

It should be noted that extenders have issues with 3D and 4K tv.

humberguy 04-27-2014 11:46 AM

Thanks for the response. I actually preffered to run HDMI cable, i would save myself a ton of labour in the process. I wanted to make 9 runs in my house.

taylorjm 04-27-2014 01:40 PM

You want to make 9 runs of HDMI cables through your house? Wow...personally, and with 20+ years in computer networking, I wouldn't do hdmi. I think that's too specialized. I think you need to look at something more generic like cat6. If you do hdmi, you are limited to audio/video signals. With cat6 you can run data, video, etc with the right converters.

Tough call, and hdmi is expensive.

gregzoll 04-27-2014 02:46 PM

Redmere, or just pull a couple of runs of Cat-6. Personally I would pull Cat-6. It gives you more opportunities for future proofing. Always pull through Smurf Tube. If you pull an HDMi and it goes bad. Guess what is coming out to replace that cable. A whole lot of drywall.

gregzoll 04-27-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by taylorjm (Post 1343100)
You want to make 9 runs of HDMI cables through your house? Wow...personally, and with 20+ years in computer networking, I wouldn't do hdmi. I think that's too specialized. I think you need to look at something more generic like cat6. If you do hdmi, you are limited to audio/video signals. With cat6 you can run data, video, etc with the right converters.

Tough call, and hdmi is expensive.

Especially with the fact that they will be using a Redmere cable for those kind of distances.

Bob Sanders 04-27-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by humberguy (Post 1343045)
I wanted to make 9 runs in my house.

9 runs is a different ball game. Not sure what the need is for that?

Usually when you have a long HDMI run, it's say.... from the receiver (in the front of the room) to a roof mounted projector in the back.

What is this "9 runs" all about?

ddawg16 04-27-2014 04:36 PM

I went through the same issue on my 2-story addition.....

The issue with HDMI is that you either an HDMI switch or 9 outputs.

I ran 2 Cat 6's to each room....along with an RG6 coax. This gives me the option of using HDMI over the two Cat 6's or just streaming video over Ethernet....or watch what ever is on the antenna.

Seeing how Ethernet is pretty much standard now for most TV's....I'll just go that way.

Bob Sanders 04-27-2014 05:13 PM

Okay... I think I understand what's going on here. You're along the lines of trying to run multiple tv's from a single box (streamer box or cable box)

The norm is to run ethernet to a box in each room. A SHORT hdmi run then goes from the box to the tv.

The difference is that HDMI wasn't really built to carry data for long runs. It was built to carry VIDEO/AUDIO INFORMATION for relatively short runs.

Ethernet is for long runs of data.

Bob Sanders 04-27-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ddawg16 (Post 1343158)
Seeing how Ethernet is pretty much standard now for most TV's....I'll just go that way.

For data... yes, but not necessarily for audio/video. That standard is HDMI

gregzoll 04-27-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Sanders (Post 1343150)
9 runs is a different ball game. Not sure what the need is for that?

Usually when you have a long HDMI run, it's say.... from the receiver (in the front of the room) to a roof mounted projector in the back.

What is this "9 runs" all about?

No one I know runs that many HDMI. It is all either having Cat-6 ran with Baluns, or step it up a notch and go with HDMI over Ethernet switching. The last is more then what most would spend. But if you own a large home, business, etc. It is the best way to go.

Bob Sanders 04-27-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1343208)
No one I know runs that many HDMI. It is all either having Cat-6 ran with Baluns, or step it up a notch and go with HDMI over Ethernet switching. The last is more then what most would spend. But if you own a large home, business, etc. It is the best way to go.

Agreed.
I have a central NAS and ONE cat6 to each room. The NAS and cat6 supply the data while a box in each room processes it and hands it off the the audio/video equipment via SHORT hdmi

gregzoll 04-27-2014 06:21 PM

As for HDMI cables. I started to just go with the Amazon Basics. Got really tired of getting bad HDMI cables from Monoprice. The price is the same as Monoprice's, but better quality.

Best thing is that the heads on the Amazon's are not as large as the Monoprice version.

humberguy 04-27-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Sanders (Post 1343181)
Okay... I think I understand what's going on here. You're along the lines of trying to run multiple tv's from a single box (streamer box or cable box)

The norm is to run ethernet to a box in each room. A SHORT hdmi run then goes from the box to the tv.

The difference is that HDMI wasn't really built to carry data for long runs. It was built to carry VIDEO/AUDIO INFORMATION for relatively short runs.

Ethernet is for long runs of data.

Yea, sorry i forgot to explain. I will have a server room with all my receivers and communication cables. I will run 2 satellites,tv cable, and a playstation in the server room going to 7 TV's. I run into problems sometimes where i want to watch TV but i have guest over sometimes and can't watch what i want, i would like to have the option of switching the HDMI port on the receiver box from the living TV to the bedroom TV in the server room if i need too.

Also i have one more question. I already started running some wire in my house. I actually ran cat 5e wire not cat 6e. Am i ok with cat5e wire?

I just box 2 boxes of cat 5e and i don't want to put the wire to waste.

taylorjm 04-27-2014 09:42 PM

So, you want to have 7 tv's, and the ability to watch something you want on any of those tv's, plus allow the other tv's to watch something as well. Maybe even be able to watch a recorded show on a tv but not interrupt what others are watching.

Um, I think you just described what pretty much any cable, satellite provider has. At&t uverse, verizion fios, comcast, charter, dish network, they all have the ability to let you watch what you want by having a box at each tv. I'm not sure why you are trying to reinvent the wheel!!


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