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Old 03-01-2014, 01:08 PM   #1
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What do you think about some cities starting to charge fees to groups who feed the hungry in their parks.

What benefit(s) would there be to doing this?

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"The City of Columbia is now enforcing a six-year-old ordinance that requires those charities that want to feed or minister to homeless in parks will have to pay the city $75 an hour for the privilege." http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local...arity/5907103/
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The problem for one of the most well-known groups that feeds the homeless, however, is that it doesn’t even qualify as a charity. For about 12 years, Food Not Bombs has been gathering in a Columbia park to share meals with those less fortunate. That tradition is in jeopardy, according to organizer Judith Turnipseed, since the new policy would force the group to pay at least $120 per week in order to meet. http://rt.com/usa/south-carolina-col...-homeless-696/

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Old 03-01-2014, 03:20 PM   #2
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On one hand it is a public park, and most communities charge a fee to hold a company picnic, or a rally, or concert, or other similar meeting in them.

But on the other hand it is doing a good deed for those homeless folk.

I am sure that there is a community center that would suffice better especially in the colder months.

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It sounds like government overstepping it's bounds.

The only other thing I can think of is - is there a lot of trash left behind after the food is handed out? Does the city have to pay an employee to clean up after them, empty trash cans, repair the lawn, etc.?

Personally, I think it's a bad law. If there is a group that's kind enough to help the homeless, let them do it. They're not only helping them, they're also setting a good example for young people who may see what they're doing and inspire them to do something kind for someone else.

There was a story 1 or 2 summers ago about a mom who was fined because her children had a lemonade stand in front of their house. Apparently, the kids needed a permit from the city to be able to do this.

There was also a story recently about a little girl who was trying to earn money to help pay for braces for her teeth. She had some kind of a gadget she made by hand (sorry, I don't remember what she made) and was selling it on a sidewalk in the city. She was told that she cannot sell anything there. Here's the goofy part - it would be legal for her to stand there and beg for money.

She was on the news with her parents. They were not happy with the fact that it was teaching her that it's alright to beg for money, but not alright for her to go out and earn it on her own.

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I would like to see some sort of compromise. If the issue is park cleanliness, perhaps the group could be responsible for making sure any mess was cleaned when they were finished.
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On one hand it is a public park, and most communities charge a fee to hold a company picnic, or a rally, or concert, or other similar meeting in them.

But on the other hand it is doing a good deed for those homeless folk.

I am sure that there is a community center that would suffice better especially in the colder months.

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Our city charges $40 an hour to use the community center.
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Our city charges $40 an hour to use the community center.
Didn't the people already pay for the community center?
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Why does it matter if there is a benefit to anyone since when does the government care about that.
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I would like to see some sort of compromise. If the issue is park cleanliness, perhaps the group could be responsible for making sure any mess was cleaned when they were finished.
Yes. Charge a deposit and if they've left it clean, they get their deposit back.

That type of thing still seems restrictive though. If it's a public park, and the citizens paid for it, shouldn't they be able to gather there for whatever activities they choose? As long as it's not anything immoral or illegal.

What are the guidelines for this type of thing? Say a large family decides to have a picnic at the park. Not a family reunion where they'd want to reserve the pavilion and the baseball diamond or anything like that, but just a last-minute get-together. If 40 or 50 members of the family show up, are they going to be fined for not getting a permit?

It's possible that the cities that are charging groups who feed the poor in their parks want to say, "hey, we don't want you people here", but they know that if they come out and say it, they'll be sued. So by charging a high fee, they're hoping the charity will find somewhere else to go.
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no longer is it " by the people, for the people"
it is now "by the government, for the government".

and we haven't seen nuthin yet.
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just another example of communities wanting problems to go away. These groups have a good reputation for being very clean. Next they will require the groups to check blood pressure before serving anything with salt in it.
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Set up another meeting place nearby. Why do they have to eat "in the park"?
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Didn't the people already pay for the community center?
You don't understand small-town America. The entrenched good ole boys, do whatever they want, whenever they want.
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Here it is just a few bucks...and that is to reserve an area..other than that its free.
I didnt realize many cities were ripping of the public with public parks.
In my opinion the park should not charge to use the park to feed the homeless.
Whats next...charged for a walk?
What makes the activity of feeding the homeless any different that sitting on a bench..if you are in the park you are in the park..who cares what you are doing?
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wow, just silly. There has to be more to this story.

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