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Jilligoat 03-05-2012 10:26 PM

Tiling the fireplace...
 
I have a wall tiling question. :)

I have a fireplace with brick surrounding it. The brick has been painted white. I would like to break pieces of marble and have a mosiac look instead of the brick. Which would you suggest I do...

1. Take down the brick, put up cement board and tile.
2. Leave the brick, place cement board over it and tile.
3. Just tile over the existing brick.

My only concern about taking down the brick first is that I don't know what is behind the brick. In this house that I have been remodeling (newbie DIYer...), nothing is as it should be (lots of hidden surprises in various places).

My concern about leaving the brick, and placing cement board up is that adding the cement board will add such thickness to the wall and I'm not sure I will like it cosmetically nor will I enjoy fixing the molding around the brick.

As for just tiling over the existing brick, that just doesn't seem like a good idea if I want to have a nice, level finish.

Suggestions?
Ideas?
Questions I should be asking myself? :eek:

Thanks so much!!!

allport 09-21-2012 10:01 AM

I am looking to revamp my fireplace and has an ugly cream marble surrounding the fireplace and a slab on the floor. I want to remove it but don't want to damage the mantle etc. any suggestions

joecaption 09-21-2012 10:55 AM

Allport, go back and add your own post. Impossible to keep the ansewers straight when to differant people are asking questions.

rygamer 09-23-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jilligoat
I have a wall tiling question. :)

I have a fireplace with brick surrounding it. The brick has been painted white. I would like to break pieces of marble and have a mosiac look instead of the brick. Which would you suggest I do...

1. Take down the brick, put up cement board and tile.
2. Leave the brick, place cement board over it and tile.
3. Just tile over the existing brick.

My only concern about taking down the brick first is that I don't know what is behind the brick. In this house that I have been remodeling (newbie DIYer...), nothing is as it should be (lots of hidden surprises in various places).

My concern about leaving the brick, and placing cement board up is that adding the cement board will add such thickness to the wall and I'm not sure I will like it cosmetically nor will I enjoy fixing the molding around the brick.

As for just tiling over the existing brick, that just doesn't seem like a good idea if I want to have a nice, level finish.

Suggestions?
Ideas?
Questions I should be asking myself? :eek:

Thanks so much!!!

I would attach cement backer board directly onto brick. I believe u can get it as thin as 1/4.
Johnbridge.com is a great tile resource.

homeprova 09-23-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rygamer (Post 1016112)

I would attach cement backer board directly onto brick. I believe u can get it as thin as 1/4.
Johnbridge.com is a great tile resource.

There's also another way that works really well. Use dryvit mesh ( same looking chicken wire mesh they use for stucco). Drill holes for screws to hold it down, then apply the thinset over it and start installing your tile. It's a pretty easy solution. One that I generally warrant for 5 years. Good luck!!

TRUEPRO 09-26-2012 02:59 AM

Both ways mentioned will work (backerboard/mesh).

Couple things the didnt mention...

You have to predrill the fastener holes in the mortar joints only. Use tapcons to fasten the 1/4 backerboard.

>>>heres a little trick for ya... After you have all the holes pre drilled, fill the holes with small nails or something that will slightly protrude. Paint the ends of the nails with lipstick. Press the backer board against the wall exactly where you want it to be. You screw holes will now be marked. drill a small hole where the lipstick is so it comes thru the front. Now your not guessing where your predrilled holes are.<<<

By using backerboard, you eliminate the step of having to parge the metal lathe which can be tricky to get perfectly smooth. I would only do that technique if i was installing stone veneer which is way thicker and has more room for play. For tile you want flat as possible.

OR (CHACHING)

Use a D/A with a wire wheel to get the paint off. Then you can tile right over the brick. Decisions Decisions...

GL


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