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Old 03-16-2014, 03:19 PM   #1
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Railing on concrete steps


This winter causes one of my concrete steps to lose a corner. I am planning on repairing the step and cutting off the old metal railing. My wife wants a wood painted railing so I am wonder what is a good anchoring system for 4x4 wood posts in concrete that provide a good clean look on existing concrete?
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I've never seen any bracket that will work on concrete steps.
I set the post in concrete beside the steps.

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I've never seen any bracket that will work on concrete steps.
I set the post in concrete beside the steps.
I've done the same at my old house.

then offset the railings from the post to put them over the steps.
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I have used these brackets but a sleeve and trim needs to be used with it to cover bracket. Veranda sold at Home depot
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I have also seen a 4x4 notched and mounted to side of steps. Alot of inspectors and not allowing notched posts anymore but I never seen one fail.

Since you have to repair the corner anyway I would bury the post in step and attach back post to house wall. Use an angle grinder to score the top of the concrete where the post will go. I would rent a hammer drill that is also a small jackhammer. Chip the whole side out up to where post goes so it fits good. Then use 2 wedge anchors to attach post from the side. Then create some forms to replace/repair missing concrete.

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Mount to the side with concrete anchors. If you want notch a step in the bottom of the post so half of sits on top of the steps.
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Notch a 4x4 and attach to the side as the others have mentioned. Generally speaking, code doesn't come into play with notching the posts in this situation, it generally just states that it needs to be able to resist 160#s (maybe more or less) of lateral force........
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For the concrete should I use vinyl concrete or standard mix? I was planning of putting a few tapcon in corner to give new concrete something to hold onto
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Tapcons aren't a bad idea. Repair cement is what you want. Take a couple boards and hot glue them to the vertical sides of the step. It'll keep the cement from pushing out as you pack it in. Also dampen the existing concrete before placing the new so it doesn't suck the moisture out of the new, weakening the bond.

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