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Old 09-27-2013, 08:28 PM   #16
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Pouring a foundation under an old house?


I believe the is a dug crawl-space under the middle area- that's the norm, at least.
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Why does it need a foundation?
It has been sitting on dirt for over 100yrs. Maybe you could lift and support one side at a time, or even one quarter and get enough of a "foundation" to fix the problems.
If you start this are you opening a can of worms regarding codes etc?
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its certainly possible to do what you wish but is it economically feasible ? i once did our home ( 1864 - no bsmt & laid-up stone fnd ) BUT friends loaned beams & helped w/cribbing/hydraulic jacks & manifold/conc forms/etc,,, as i look back, in relation to their free help, i mostly bought coffee/donuts/pizza/beer + paid their loaned people more than anything else it was winter in upstate ny so they had no work at that time,,, i ran the bobcat as we excavated,,, back in those days, we didn't have as much ' manuel labor ' as avail today,,, not an inexpensive project
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If you want to get reasonable information on your project, you need to post some photos, and includes the dimensions of the house, and provide accurate information about the foundation (if any) the house is on. The house may be on sill beams sitting on earth, or on rocks. There may be a crawlspace. Whatever there is, you need to describe it carefully and accurately.

My brother relocated a tobacco barn in North Carolina. This involved jacking the old barn up, putting it on a truck, driving it some 10 miles to the new location, lowering it onto a foundation custom built for the barn. The barn was about 800 square feet. So it can be done, and is done frequently, but the cost and difficulty are dependent on specific conditions, which you have not discussed.
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its certainly possible to do what you wish but is it economically feasible ? i once did our home ( 1864 - no bsmt & laid-up stone fnd ) BUT friends loaned beams & helped w/cribbing/hydraulic jacks & manifold/conc forms/etc,,, as i look back, in relation to their free help, i mostly bought coffee/donuts/pizza/beer + paid their loaned people more than anything else it was winter in upstate ny so they had no work at that time,,, i ran the bobcat as we excavated,,, back in those days, we didn't have as much ' manuel labor ' as avail today,,, not an inexpensive project
See, I'm from a small hick town. That is exactly what would happen- the guy who built my mom's house would insist on helping, as would my grandfather (a stairbuilder) and my friends dad (contractor/construction)- and likely the neighborhood engineer. I grew up in tiny, hands-on town- most these people have know me since I was born, and considering all, my costs would be getting professionals to either jack up or move the house, and paying the cement truck. That's why I'm looking for a break-down of expenses- I can get quotes on the small bits individually, and know that what I'm paying is a fraction of what someone who lacked my connections would pay.

Lucky me, Eh?
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Why does it need a foundation?
It has been sitting on dirt for over 100yrs. Maybe you could lift and support one side at a time, or even one quarter and get enough of a "foundation" to fix the problems.
If you start this are you opening a can of worms regarding codes etc?
Code-wise, I'd actually be saving my arse. Here in marin, if something happens to an old house (not noted as a historical building) due to not being up-to-date with code, it becomes an insurance hassle. If I put a foundation that follows code, and then we get a big earthquake, Im much better off than if such happens while I'm foundation-less.
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If you want to get reasonable information on your project, you need to post some photos, and includes the dimensions of the house, and provide accurate information about the foundation (if any) the house is on. The house may be on sill beams sitting on earth, or on rocks. There may be a crawlspace. Whatever there is, you need to describe it carefully and accurately.

My brother relocated a tobacco barn in North Carolina. This involved jacking the old barn up, putting it on a truck, driving it some 10 miles to the new location, lowering it onto a foundation custom built for the barn. The barn was about 800 square feet. So it can be done, and is done frequently, but the cost and difficulty are dependent on specific conditions, which you have not discussed.
Ok, then- I'll work on getting the info. Since this is such a laied-back deal of a house sale, everything's slow in motion. Of course, the owners living hours away and knowing next to nothing hinders the process even further..
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Is everybody glossing over the fact that she's 18 years old, types with proper spelling and grammar, and seems to have her s**t together? Kinda gives me hope for the future of humanity.

That's all I have. Back to your discussion.
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I've been following this thread and that was my first thought, Mort. All I can say is, good for her. There are a lot of pipe-dreamers and just plain ol unrealistic ideas out there...sounds like she's got an idea, the start of a plan, and some experienced support behind her. Hey, I wish I could say the same, and I've got 13 years on her.

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How much land would be coming with this house ?
Is it currently a parcel, or would it need to be split from a larger parcel ?
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Is everybody glossing over the fact that she's 18 years old, types with proper spelling and grammar, and seems to have her s**t together? Kinda gives me hope for the future of humanity.

That's all I have. Back to your discussion.
I agree and now she ended a sentence with "Eh". Doesn't get any better from a Hoser's POV. I might even do the 1k trip and help for all that is worth.
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Is everybody glossing over the fact that she's 18 years old, types with proper spelling and grammar, and seems to have her s**t together? Kinda gives me hope for the future of humanity.

That's all I have. Back to your discussion.
Aww, thanks! But seeing as I'm going into a Linguistics major.. I ought to hope I have decent grammar!
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I've been following this thread and that was my first thought, Mort. All I can say is, good for her. There are a lot of pipe-dreamers and just plain ol unrealistic ideas out there...sounds like she's got an idea, the start of a plan, and some experienced support behind her. Hey, I wish I could say the same, and I've got 13 years on her.

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To be fair, I've been dreaming of owning my own house since I was 14...
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How much land would be coming with this house ?
Is it currently a parcel, or would it need to be split from a larger parcel ?
It's currently a parcel of it's own- around a few acres, I believe. Bigger than my Dad's lot, but not as big as alot of the properties around. Basically, I could have a large garden and some extra land.

Edit- If your wondering if it would be viable to place the house, if moved, on the same land, the answer is no- but my aunt owns an empty lot that it will fit on, less than a mile away.
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NO, just seen problems out that way with multiple houses on the same parcel, or trying to split too small of a house parcel off of a big ranch property. Sometimes, they work out to be non-splitable, for various reasons. Just wanted to give a heads up, if needed.
But seems it's not an issue.

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