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martin1791 05-14-2012 11:25 AM

overcharged for concrete garage slabs
 
General contractor has put in 2 garage pads with footings and the bill is quite high. We were referred to him & I'd gotten prices from the other gc's in the area so we knew approx how much it should be.
The concrete alone was a total of $9290 w/concrete, screed, mileage as the explanation. Concrete is $80 p/cubic yard.
24x24 is 1st pad 6inch thick 36inch footers, 30x40 2nd pad also 6inch thick 36inch footers total for the 2 pads was over 21K. The dirt work for the pads were done, he did do the excavating with his own equipment & used rebar/ties/stakes/lumber. I've contacted the concrete company since we did not receive the bill from them it was all billed through the gc, asking them for a copy of the bill to verify prices. But until I receive it, I'm just trying to get an opinion on if it is too high or if it's just me. We are rural midwest & I question if he's charging us more since we're from the "city" , I certainly know with these prices vs the others, he would have no work otherwise!
Anyone with experience or has had slab work done, please let me know!

concretemasonry 05-14-2012 11:38 AM

That is certainly a heavy duty slab from a thickness and footing standpoint. Those increase the excavating, compacted base and forming costs in addition to the amount of concrete needed. The concrete cost is certainly reasonable, especially if he used air-entrained and higher strength for durability. Around here all driveways 4" or so thick (sometimes 6", but no "footings") are over 4000 psi and air entrained and the concrete is more than $80.00/yard.

What kind of loads and guidelines were given to the contractor?

Dick

Canarywood1 05-14-2012 11:40 AM

Can you explain the footers a little better,regarding dimensions?

lewisthepilgrim 05-14-2012 11:59 AM

yeah thats rediculous.... I did my entire garage pad, 9'' deep for 600 bucks.

bill01 05-14-2012 12:36 PM

That is a lot of concrete almost 3000 cubic feet. They could have poured your 2 slabs almost 2ft thick. Those better be big footings to use that much concrete. If they used standard truck it would have taken more than 10 which is why it pays to supervise any work, you could at least have counted the trucks.

12penny 05-14-2012 12:42 PM

What did your contract say?

martin1791 05-14-2012 01:33 PM

I saw the footings, they are about 1foot wide x 36inches deep and they were poured and allowed to set before he put the slab on. They run the entire 24x24 (576sq ft)& 30x40 (1200sq ft) outer edge of the pad. He is currently finishing our house pad, so I was advised to wait to confront him on the overcharges until he completed that because we are on a timeframe to get that done so everything else can fall in line. So I will be discussing this with him once that is complete. I just want to make sure I have all my "ducks in a row" before I do sit down with him.
We do not have a contract with him.

packer_rich 05-14-2012 01:47 PM

Your contract should have the dollar amounts already layed out. If you signed a contract with no $ amounts, that could be a problem. plus, are you sure the concrete he used was $80/yd.? I am also in the midwest and it's higher here.

concretemasonry 05-14-2012 01:48 PM

martin -

You may have some strange or problematic soils apparently you are doing a slab on grade construction to float the home.

Having work done wiithout a contract is always iffy.

Joe Carola 05-14-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by martin1791 (Post 921077)
General contractor has put in 2 garage pads with footings and the bill is quite high. We were referred to him & I'd gotten prices from the other gc's in the area so we knew approx how much it should be.
The concrete alone was a total of $9290 w/concrete, screed, mileage as the explanation. Concrete is $80 p/cubic yard.
24x24 is 1st pad 6inch thick 36inch footers, 30x40 2nd pad also 6inch thick 36inch footers total for the 2 pads was over 21K. The dirt work for the pads were done, he did do the excavating with his own equipment & used rebar/ties/stakes/lumber. I've contacted the concrete company since we did not receive the bill from them it was all billed through the gc, asking them for a copy of the bill to verify prices. But until I receive it, I'm just trying to get an opinion on if it is too high or if it's just me. We are rural midwest & I question if he's charging us more since we're from the "city" , I certainly know with these prices vs the others, he would have no work otherwise!
Anyone with experience or has had slab work done, please let me know!

How come you weren't told what the price was BEFORE they started. Why did you let them do the work without knowing THEIR price first. Doesn't matter at all what prices you got from other contractors, you allowed the work to be done which you shouldn't have. Doesn't make any sense at all. You can't let someone do the job first and then when you get the bill you don't like the charges because you think they should be cheaper because you of the other prices.

What makes you think everyone's price is the same? Maybe it is high but the point is that YOU let the work be done without getting the price first, now you don't like the price. You can't come here on the internet and get ideas about pricing here and then go back to your contractor and tell him what information you received here. Doesn't work that way. You obviously don't have a signed contract form the GC with pricing. Is the GC licensed and insured?

Joe Carola 05-14-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by martin1791 (Post 921155)
We do not have a contract with him.

Why not??? Now you come her and complain AFTER the work is done. So if someone here gives you false information about pricing or telling you he was to high, you're going to go back and tell the gc your not going to pay him what he charged you??

Daniel Holzman 05-14-2012 02:25 PM

You agreed to have a contractor put in slab and footing with no contract? Did you have drawings and specifications? This seems very unusual, what is your basis to say he overcharged, since you had no contract he could charge you a million dollars for the work.

Canarywood1 05-14-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by martin1791 (Post 921155)
I saw the footings, they are about 1foot wide x 36inches deep and they were poured and allowed to set before he put the slab on. They run the entire 24x24 (576sq ft)& 30x40 (1200sq ft) outer edge of the pad. He is currently finishing our house pad, so I was advised to wait to confront him on the overcharges until he completed that because we are on a timeframe to get that done so everything else can fall in line. So I will be discussing this with him once that is complete. I just want to make sure I have all my "ducks in a row" before I do sit down with him.
We do not have a contract with him.



According to your demensions you have 33 cu. yds. in the slabs $2640.00 and 26 cu. yds in the footings $2080.00 for a total of $4720.00,kinda late to be asking but why the heavy footings under the slabs??

martin1791 05-14-2012 02:27 PM

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Joe Carola 05-14-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by martin1791
I saw the footings, they are about 1foot wide x 36inches deep and they were poured and allowed to set before he put the slab on. They run the entire 24x24 (576sq ft)& 30x40 (1200sq ft) outer edge of the pad. He is currently finishing our house pad, so I was advised to wait to confront him on the overcharges until he completed that because we are on a timeframe to get that done so everything else can fall in line. So I will be discussing this with him once that is complete. I just want to make sure I have all my "ducks in a row" before I do sit down with him.
We do not have a contract with him.

Do you have permits and inspections ?


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