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Old 06-24-2012, 05:43 PM   #31
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Thank you Daniel. I was mearly trying to fill in the blanks that hes not required to fill. Im not a pro and that is why i rather research the hell out of something before doing it so it can be done correct.

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I don't follow why folks are getting so bent over this thread. There seems to be a perfectly good engineering plan for a footing. There is a plan for a steel beam. The engineer quite correctly did not specify means, methods, techniques or sequences of construction, that is NOT their job. They specified a minimum strength of concrete, a minimum footer size. Perhaps they could have specified the exact method of attaching the column to the floor, sometimes it is done, sometimes that is left to the detailer or the contractor.

The project seems pretty solid to me. There is absolutely no need to tie the slab into the footer, it accomplishes nothing, and is rarely done even in commercial construction. The slab simply is there to provide a flat walking surface it has not structural significance, while the footer supports the column. Due to the slight potential for differential movement between the slab and the footer, it is common practice in commerical installations to install a flexible joint between the column footer and the slab, however if you install the footer below the surface of the slab, then add the floor slab later to make a flat floor, you may want to install a slip surface over the footer (grease or similar) to minimize the potential for cracking the slab. In a basement installation, this is a minimum concern problem, more of an issue where the slab can get warm while the footer remains cold.

Good luck with the project.

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Spoke to my engineer again this afternoon and he said the same. The size of it I can really screw it up fast using a vibrator. He said to poke at it with a stick to make sure it gets all over.


That's why i said in the beginning of this post,you don't need a vibrator,but you insisted on one.
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That's why i said in the beginning of this post,you don't need a vibrator,but you insisted on one.
Well the guy at the concrete place told me i would screw it up if I didnt use a vibrator. So i was kindof putting my faith in the guy.
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Well the guy at the concrete place told me i would screw it up if I didnt use a vibrator. So i was kindof putting my faith in the guy.
Some advice?

Take some time to actually go to jobs and watch concrete being placed. Ask some of the OLDER workers who have obviously been doing this for a while why they do (or DON'T do) what they are doing.
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One more person here telling you to skip the vibrator for the footings..........

They're simply too small to require vibration, and the density of the concrete is far from being the weak point in the entire equation.

For future reference though, running a vibrator is relatively simply IF you remember the rate at which to vibrate: Let the head sink into the the concrete at it's own pace and extract it from the concrete at an equal, or even slower rate. It's important to remove it from the concrete slowly, as the void needs to fill behind the head........

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