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Old 06-18-2013, 03:12 PM   #16
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Since it is going to be on the ground.... maybe you COULD get away with pouring just one step at a time, with healthy keyways to handle the cold joints.

I would use epoxied rebar, though. (the green stuff)

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Since it is going to be on the ground.... maybe you COULD get away with pouring just one step at a time, with healthy keyways to handle the cold joints.

I would use epoxied rebar, though. (the green stuff)
I still think the truck will be cheaper. Do you realize how many beers it's going to take to get that job done if he does it a bag at a time?

If I was doing it....carry 10 bags of concrete to the construction spot....rest and have a beer.

Get the wheel barrel and start mixing. The most I've done is 2 bags at a time....typically takes about 5-10 min and then your ready to pour...by then your ready for another beer...drink beer while spreading out the concrete..

Make another batch.....drink another beer...

Repeat

So....10 bags...5 pours....that's 5 beers plus the one your drank after you carried all the bags over there....that is one 6-pack and you only have one step done...maybe.

The second problem....if you try to do more than one step....the quality of the work starts going down as the beers go down....
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I still think the truck will be cheaper. Do you realize how many beers it's going to take to get that job done if he does it a bag at a time?

If I was doing it....carry 10 bags of concrete to the construction spot....rest and have a beer.

Get the wheel barrel and start mixing. The most I've done is 2 bags at a time....typically takes about 5-10 min and then your ready to pour...by then your ready for another beer...drink beer while spreading out the concrete..

Make another batch.....drink another beer...

Repeat

So....10 bags...5 pours....that's 5 beers plus the one your drank after you carried all the bags over there....that is one 6-pack and you only have one step done...maybe.

The second problem....if you try to do more than one step....the quality of the work starts going down as the beers go down....

GOOD POINT.... you'd better get a keg...
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I don't care what anyone tells you, pouring that big of a stair case at once by yourself with DIY skills is asking for a disaster. As someone who loves finishing steps, even I'd think long and hard about the feasability of pouring and finishing them myself. Going to need some creative forming skills to get the forms relatively tight to the tapered walls, as well as being able to remove them in a timely manner when finishing.

Before you start forming, I'd highly suggest you look at a decent segmental retaining wall system, and consider making the steps out of them instead. Much less issue with time constraints........

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OK. I think you guys have almost convinced me to do 1 big pour from a truck. I'll have to make the final decision over a beer tonight. Thanks for all your help.
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I don't care what anyone tells you, pouring that big of a stair case at once by yourself with DIY skills is asking for a disaster. As someone who loves finishing steps, even I'd think long and hard about the feasability of pouring and finishing them myself. Going to need some creative forming skills to get the forms relatively tight to the tapered walls, as well as being able to remove them in a timely manner when finishing.

Before you start forming, I'd highly suggest you look at a decent segmental retaining wall system, and consider making the steps out of them instead. Much less issue with time constraints........

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I saw this post after my previous post. If I do the concrete pour, I'd find help from a few guys. How is the cost of the segmental wall system vs. concrete?... Same, double, even more? Even more to mull over tonight.
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I'd think long and hard if i were you,about which way to go with those stairs,i'd also reccomend jomama45's suggestion of using the segmental route,at least you can take it apart if something doesn't look right and redo it,not so with concrete.
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I don't care what anyone tells you, pouring that big of a stair case at once by yourself with DIY skills is asking for a disaster. As someone who loves finishing steps, even I'd think long and hard about the feasability of pouring and finishing them myself. Going to need some creative forming skills to get the forms relatively tight to the tapered walls, as well as being able to remove them in a timely manner when finishing.

Before you start forming, I'd highly suggest you look at a decent segmental retaining wall system, and consider making the steps out of them instead. Much less issue with time constraints........

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Wow Mama.... Nice looking... what system is that.
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I saw this post after my previous post. If I do the concrete pour, I'd find help from a few guys. How is the cost of the segmental wall system vs. concrete?... Same, double, even more? Even more to mull over tonight.
It really depends on what system you have readily available to you. The one I showed is relatively expensive, probably twice as much in materials than concrete, rebar, and lumber alone.

I would still warn on trying to conquer the whole pour with a few buddies, it's alot more work than you may think, especially to make them look acceptable. Steps present some of the most complicated residential concrete finishing challenges there are....

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Wow Mama.... Nice looking... what system is that.
I just "Googled" for that image, but the block are Versa-Lok and they're just capped with concrete pavers from what I can tell. We typically use the matching Versa-Lok caps though.....

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