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Old 06-18-2013, 12:31 PM   #1
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I know that I should do one pour for concrete steps. However, as a 1-man crew, I'd like to multiple pours because of time constraints, cost, ease, etc. If I do multiple pours, will I regret it? Here are some details about my project:
  • The stairs lead from a basement door that is below grade
  • The stairs are between two cinder block retaining walls. These walls seem very sturdy and have good drainage behind them (but weeping holes will not empty water onto the steps).
  • The retaining walls mirror each other and curve outward as they go away from the house. Therefore, the bottom stairs (close to the house) are perhaps 6 feet wide and the top stairs are 10 feet wide.
  • I live in Connecticut
  • The ground has a lot of clay and seems stable (although some "clean fill" was added above this)
  • I will have 3 or 4 inches of 3/4 inch or 1-inch crushed stone above this subsoil. Everything will be tamped by hand.
  • I plan to be generous with the rebar and wire mesh. Not only will I use it within each step, but will have the back/hidden part of the step connect to the step above with rebar.
  • The total rise is 47 inches. The total run is 86 inches.
  • I will have 8 treads and 7 rises. The tread will be 10.75 inches. The rise will be 6.5 inches plus a 1 degre "slope drop" of 3/16 inch per tread to make a net rise of 6.6875 inches.
  • There is an existing concrete slab immediately in front of the door that probably extends 4 feet from the door. The stairs I'm describing start at the edge of that slab. The first stair tread is actually the same level as the slab.
  • Yes....I do have a drain just outside the basement door (in the middle of the aforementioned slab) that will take away the rain that falls on my steps.
So again, is it feasible to pour each step (or perhaps two steps) by itself... and then pour the next step the following weekend.. and so on?

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Personally, I don't think I would want to trust cold joints in a stairway.

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Post a picture.
Sounds like the steps will be big enough to be calling for a truck not doing it by hand.
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I agree with Joe...need pictures.

My first thought....what is supporting them on the backside? Dirt?

At a min, I think your looking at about 12-15 90lb bags....after about the 5th bag, that truck is going to look real good....
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As requested, attached are a few images of the project site. Thanks for the early replies.
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Big help.....Yea....you don't want to do bags.....trust me on that one....

At a min.....do the cement/sand/mixer....

Or, see if you have a building supply (not HD) that has the totes you rent. Near my house is a building supply where I can buy a 1/2, 3/4 or full yard of concrete...I tow the tote to my house and pour...return tote clean....about $135 for a full yard....hell of a lot easier and faster than bags...
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Can you rough estimate your volume?
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Can you rough estimate your volume?
I don't think I can estimate it yet. I hope to be able to work on the project tomorrow... setting the final grade, putting down the crushed stone, and building at least the first form. After that, I should be able to estimate the volume of concrete that I'll need. My gut tells me that I'll need at least 2 yards, but I'm green at concrete work and am probably way off.
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I see no less than 1/2 to 3/4 yards per step for the width of your steps shown, (the very minimum) and larger and larger amounts as you go wider at the top, plus top and bottom landings.
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I see about 1/4 to 1/2 yard per step for the width of your steps shown, plus top and bottom landings.
That truck is starting to look better and better.....
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That truck is starting to look better and better.....
Real good. Recheck my numbers.... I went back and took a look at how much wider than those double doors the steps will be as they widen out. I was way short on my initial glance.

Geez, these are going to be WIDE steps, and what? ... about 6 of them? This could go a full truckful.
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In 80 lb/sack: 1yd3=approx 40.5 sack




Plus: Forming should be fun....
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Real good. Recheck my numbers.... I went back and took a look at how much wider than those double doors the steps will be as they widen out. I was way short on my initial glance.

Geez, these are going to be WIDE steps, and what? ... about 6 of them? This could go a full truckful.
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In 80 lb/sack: 1yd3=approx 40.5 sack
That gentlemen is what you call a workout.....
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Yeah.....!!!! Might take till noon. (the next day)
I can sure see why he wants to divide it up.
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no worries on the short order charge- but truck time? One man finish crew?
Might want to recruit a helper or 2

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