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kimberland30 06-20-2013 12:07 PM

Driveway Addition - Staining old concrete?
 
We are having our sidewalk replaced and our driveway extended 12' to make it a two car instead of a one-car driveway. The existing driveway will remain (too much to take it out and re-pour to match).

Looking on the interwebs I see that we can stain the old driveway to better blend in with the new. The driveway is 25' x 8'. What is a good brand of stain that is easy to work with and budget friendly? We obviously want something of quality since it's driven/parked on daily.

Aside from the actual product we use, is there anything else we need to know for this DIY project?

Thanks!

itsreallyconc 06-21-2013 11:06 AM

what you need to know is no matter what product you use, both sections of conc will have different colors primarily due to age, texture, surface wear patterns, ambient light refraction, & original mix design,,, this is 1 of the most difficult items to do even for an experienced decorative conc artisan/stainer & acceptance of final product is often subjective,,, even i eye sees a different color than the other eye - its our brain that melds color - not our eyes.

IF anyone's 'canvas' is different in color/texture, it then follows any translucent color applied must have a different final appearance,,, fwiw, its also extremely difficult to get 2 successive loads of conc from the same plant to match color even if the same truck is used.

'can stain the old driveway to better blend' doesn't necessarily translate as possible or likely - didn't abe lincoln post that some time ago ? :laughing:

there are many good products on the market today but, imo, neither an apron/vest store NOR sher-wms sells them,,, all this being said, you'll have more luck starting light then progressing to the final color goal,,, tinted sealers are helpful, too,,, we pick solvent-base'd sealer - not water,,, btw, sher-wms sells tints in small quantities & we often use their product as a source

good luck !

kimberland30 07-02-2013 03:11 PM

Good information, thank you! The concrete was poured earlier this afternoon and 4 hours later, it rained HARD and is still raining. I'm nervous to go to the house and see what this unexpected storm has done to our new driveway and sidewalk.

Instead of staining the old concrete anytime soon we are going to wait and see how it looks when the new stuff is cured. I pressure washed the existing driveway a few days ago and I could not believe how much dirt/mold/crap was built up on it.

itsreallyconc 07-03-2013 03:36 AM

SHAZAAAAM, SHAZAAAAM ! ! ! who wouldda thunk cleaning something would make it look newer :laughing:

here's another tip - IF you want to clean the d/w, use a 3,500 4gpm pressure wshr w/turbo nozzle sized to fit it ( eBay ),,, also ' DAWN ' dish detergent - NO ACID, NO SOAPS, NO TRI-SODIUM PHOSPHATES, no palmolive - just dawn

gregzoll 07-03-2013 07:44 AM

itsreallyconc, we always use Tide dry detergent when cleaning drives. Works better than Dawn.

As for the OP, if the rain ruined the concrete pour, get the crew back out there to rip it all out and repour, if they did not cover with tarps as they should have, if they knew rain was in the forecast.

Hope you have not paid them yet.

itsreallyconc 07-03-2013 08:06 AM

we'll try tide, greg,,, tnx for the tip,,, afaik, all dec conc o'lay mtl manufacturers/distributors recommend dawn especially if degreasing's nec but we'll try the tike, too

we've had rainstorms on fresh conc - hgwys, runways, aprons, & d/w's,,, that's why there's always 6mil plastic on the jobsite,,, otoh, if the conc's set, we've never had trouble,,, think rip & replace would be tough to get when is far less costly to o'lay the d/w

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-03-2013 08:54 AM

I am not advising it... just offering info for your use.

Back many years ago, I added a third garage to my personal home.

My regular drive was asphalt. For cost considerations, I poured my garage slab and new driveway extension in concrete, all at the same time.

I loaded the concrete with black powder dye, wanting to at least get it darker/closer to asphalt color. Really, did nor do very much.

I subsequently used Behr Concrete Stain.... which is more a paint not a stain. The stuff works marginally OK... there must be a better product.

Now we have alot of snowblower use accross the concrete part, and it gets scrapped up pretty much... but I just redo it every two years.. and consider it a maintenece item.

It does look good untill after the first winter... and have not had trouble with hot tire pickup... but we do make an effort to run the car after it's hot directly into garage.

kimberland30 07-03-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1210912)
itsreallyconc, we always use Tide dry detergent when cleaning drives. Works better than Dawn.

As for the OP, if the rain ruined the concrete pour, get the crew back out there to rip it all out and repour, if they did not cover with tarps as they should have, if they knew rain was in the forecast.

Hope you have not paid them yet.

The concrete was fine...they covered everything with heavy-duty plastic and it looked great this morning. I can't wait to drive on it. They hadn't uncovered the sidewalk by time I left this morning but I'll be out there in a couple hours. We are not making the final payment until after I check it out (husband doesn't have an eye for things like I do, thanks to OCD). :)

kimberland30 07-03-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by itsreallyconc (Post 1210863)
SHAZAAAAM, SHAZAAAAM ! ! ! who wouldda thunk cleaning something would make it look newer :laughing:



Well, here's the thing. Hubs 'pressure washed' the driveway a few months ago and it still looked like crap, so I just assumed that's what we had to work with. But when I pressure washed it a lot of the gunk came off. Come to find out, when he pressure washes, he only lets the spray wash down stuff - kinda like how you'd do with a hose. When I did it, I had the tip as close to the driveway as possible and powered through the dirt and paint splatters from when we did the exterior of a the house last month.

Which explains why the windows were still dirty after he 'pressure washed' the house.

itsreallyconc 07-03-2013 04:51 PM

next time use carbon black :thumbsup: that stain suck'd then & it still does even tho the apron store gets it for almost zip

teflon shields on the runners help lots - even on myers & fischer plows

good sealers aren't affected by tire chemistry which's why ' tire pickup ' is an issue


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