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Old 06-19-2013, 03:56 PM   #1
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Hi,

When you have brick siding do the bricks begin on top of the footing or the foundation wall just below grade?

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Hi,

When you have brick siding do the bricks begin on top of the footing or the foundation wall just below grade?


What do you mean by "brick siding" ????

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The brick begins on top of the foundation on the brick ledge ABOVE the grade.
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The brick begins on top of the foundation on the brick ledge ABOVE the grade.
no its not above grade. Good try.
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What do you mean by "brick siding" ????
brick siding just what I said!
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Bricks are not meant to be below grade. Blocks??
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If you're referencing a conventional brick veneer, most of them start at a brick ledge 8" below the top of foundation, but there's only one way to verify for sure: a shovel. The most conventional approach is shown in figure 3 (a):

http://www.gobrick.com/portals/25/do...notes/tn28.pdf
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Brick siding....as in siding that looks like brick? Why? Why not the real thing?
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If you're referencing a conventional brick veneer, most of them start at a brick ledge 8" below the top of foundation, but there's only one way to verify for sure: a shovel. The most conventional approach is shown in figure 3 (a):

http://www.gobrick.com/portals/25/do...notes/tn28.pdf
And is that brick ledge part of the foundation wall?
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Here is some more stuff from the forum on this.... Brick veneer is 4 rows below grade- redo or leave?
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And is that brick ledge part of the foundation wall?
Yes.

The most common way to construct a brick ledge "here" is to lay an 8" wide block on the last (top) course of the wall, on top of the 12" block below.

In poured walls, a 4" (or more for stone sometimes) wide "box" is constructed in the top of the wall with either lumber, foam, or both........
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Yes.

The most common way to construct a brick ledge "here" is to lay an 8" wide block on the last (top) course of the wall, on top of the 12" block below.

In poured walls, a 4" (or more for stone sometimes) wide "box" is constructed in the top of the wall with either lumber, foam, or both........
so a 4" ledge on top of the existing 8" thick foundation wall? On the bottom of the bricks on the first course you have to have a through wall flashing, right?
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Real brick is 3-5/8" thick (modular) or slightly less if bought by a cheap builder.

There are several categories of brick exteriors.
1. True veneer using real brick and laid with an air gap behind (3/8" up to the Cadillac cavity wall with a 2" air gap and weeps). The air gap is to provide drainage/ventilation and prevents the back-up for being exposed to wind-driven rain with the brick and the air gap.
2. During initial construction, brick can be bonded into the bearing part of the wall during construction, so the brick ends up being bearing along with the wall materials. This does offer the advantage of an air gap.
3. Very thin brick that is cut to the desired thickness or made very thin (rare) and is bonded to the wall and does not really contribute to the strength and does not provide an air gap..

You can also lay a 4" or 6" concrete block on the footing that projects beyond the bearing foundation wall. You can step the height of the of the veneer. Cheaper and faster than running the the brick up from. Obviously a brick veneer is not loadbearing, but this way it sits on. In some ares of the country concrete block are made with 4" wide projection (brick ledge) on the top (as laid) and beveling down to 8", 10" or 12" to decrease the thickness of the lower portion of the wall and the brick may be considered as part of the bearing wall.

Unfortunately, not enough information is given on the construction status, so specific solutions cannot be offered. I assume you have or will have an 8" wall, but in many areas of the world 6",8",10",12",14" or 16" thick block are used for high strength load bearing walls (how about 6" partially reinforced bearing walls for 20 story buildings using U.S. codes).

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how 'bout a photo or two of what you have?
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Photos. We need photos.
Any siding, brick veneer, brick siding, vinyl, wood etc. should be a minimum 8" above the grade.

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